Schools That Sent Rejections List.

Added University of Utah:

Albany
BU
Case Western (University and College Tracks)
Cooper (Rowan)
EVMS
Georgetown
Indiana
Kentucky
Mayo
Meharry
Minnesota
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oakland
Pitt
Rosalind Franklin
Stanford
Tulane
U of A Phoenix
UCI
UC Riverside
UChicago
UMKC
USC
U of Utah
UWash
Weill Cornell
Wake
Wisconsin
WVU
Vanderbilt

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Schools That Sent Rejections List.

AACPMAS 2015-2016 Cycle

Ohh ok that's where I put mine too, I thought you were saying there was a specific area to put shadow experience other than that.

I just talked about how the doctor was, when I started shadowing, some things he showed me, what he told me about the profession, etc.

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***TMDSAS 2016***

Is this.. the official thread? I was expecting more posts lol.

Anyway, if anyone knows (I'll also be calling TMDSAS soon to verify) --- In terms of LORs, I will be submitted a committee pack that includes letters from a professor and a practicing dentist. Is that enough to satisfy the "PLUS one letter from a practicing dentist" for Baylor and Houston? Or did I need to, in addition to the committee letter, send in a third letter from another dentist? Would this letter be separate or can I also include the third letter in the packet?

I hope that made sense. If anyone knows, please let me know too

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***TMDSAS 2016***

2015-2016 Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences Application Thread

2015-2016 Texas A&M Health Science Center Application Thread

As an incoming M1, I wrote this along with a current M2’s insight. I saw a similar post last year on TTUHSC’s thread (credit to them) and thought it was a great idea and huge help! Here are some of the important questions from last year’s thread and what a lot of applicants were curious about when applying. I will update this post as new information is released.

Note: Do NOT make the mistake of waiting for a Texas A&M secondary application invitation. Secondary applications are not by invitation only, they are available to everyone applying. Submit it ASAP, CHECK WITH THE ADMISSIONS OFFICE AFTER A FEW WEEKS (AT ALL SCHOOLS) TO ENSURE THEY HAVE YOUR COMPLETED APPLICATION (some schools have glitches/never received it and applicants never knew until months after and have to re-submit late).

Secondary link: http://ift.tt/1OaEuRH
Secondary app deadline: October 1, 2015

Pictures of TAMHSC B/CS & Round Rock campuses/facilities, and student life: http://ift.tt/1WUzVSQ

(2015) Admissions Statistics of Acceptances:
(will update w/ 2015 entering class matriculants when they are posted, these are preliminary numbers including all acceptances)
- http://ift.tt/1WUzVSS 2015 Report.pdf

Avg MCAT: 32.1
Avg GPA: 3.80
First Interview Invites: begin ~June 20-July 1
Interviews: 848
Acceptances: 387
Matriculated: 200
Tuition+Fees: $16,400 - most (all?) accepted out of state students will pay this in-state tuition – 2nd cheapest medical school in the nation

Prerequisite Courses:

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http://ift.tt/1WUzUOT
Note: Texas A&M requires 3 semester hours of both Biochemistry and Statistics (math or stats department)

Grading/Curriculum/Schedule:

Grading: H/P/F
- Honors: top 15% in each course receive honors
- Pass: 70-100
- Fail: 69 and below

Curriculum:
- 1.5 years pre-clinical/2.5 years clinical curriculum
- All 200 M1’s begin in College Station for 1 year (1.5 years for Houston track) before dispersing to other rotation cities or remaining in B/CS, where they will then finish the last half year of pre-clinical curriculum before beginning rotations.

- All are required to complete a scholarly research project as well as a concentration area (in areas such as public health, global health, rural and community health, leadership and health advocacy, business, law, research, healthcare policy, biotechnology, etc.). If you’re not big into research like me, understand that having a guaranteed (and plenty) of opportunities to graduate with research and a minor will help us greatly for residency applications – we’ll appreciate it come match day for residency.

Schedule:
Labs, clinical correlation lectures, as well as weekly "Intro to Clinical Skills" and "Becoming a Physician" classes (total ~10 hours/week) are the only classes with mandatory attendance. Usually 3 half days per week w/ afternoons off for self-study time. The non-mandatory attendance classes (which constitutes most classes) are all video/audio recorded.

Year 1:

Year II (Pre-Clinical):

Rotation Cities/Hospital Affiliations:

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You will submit your campus preferences shortly after Texas match day in February (you rank them 1-5 and justify why you want your preference). Here are some of the hospital affiliates:

~30 students to Houston: #1 hospital in Texas – Methodist Hospital

~50 students to Dallas: #2 hospital in Texas - Baylor Univ Medical Center & Cook Children’s

~50 students to Round Rock/Austin: two tied at #31 hospitals in Texas - St. David's Medical Center in Austin & St. David's Round Rock Medical Center

~40 students to Temple: #10 hospital in Texas/top 15 teaching hospital in the U.S. (Baylor S&W)

~30 students to B/CS: AIM rotation program - St. Joseph Hospital, College Station Medical Center

(Most get their 1st-3rd choice. If you are unhappily assigned your 2nd/3rd choice, you can request a change during M1 year - several have switched already - or just use travel credits to rotate at other hospitals and be away from your assigned city for awhile.)

M.D. Plus Program:

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Texas A&M offers the following dual degree programs: M.D., M.D./PhD, M.D./MBA, M.D./MPH, M.D./MS in Medical Science, M.D./MS in Education of Healthcare Professionals.

If interested, (excluding M.D./PhD) you will apply to them once accepted to Texas A&M HSC College of Medicine. If accepted to a dual degree program, you will defer your M1 year, complete the master’s program, and then begin M1 year (5 years total for M.D. + Masters). You may also apply later on if you become interested during medical school. Last year, at least 5 scholarships worth $8,000 were given specifically to M.D. Plus students. This will cover the cost of the M.S. and MPH degrees completely.

(Optional) Medical Spanish / Pre-Matriculation MedCamp Program

For those interested, TAMHSC offers a free, 1 month long pre-matriculation MedCamp program that allows you to get accustomed to medical school prior to officially starting. Your housing and food are also paid for by TAMHSC completely during the program. This experience will allow participants a head-start to medical school by putting you in medical school classes, exposing you to medically relevant experiences, and pairing you with mentors that include faculty and current 2nd year medical students.

TAMHSC also offers a free, 1 month long medical Spanish course "Introductory Spanish for Health Professionals" during the summers, which you will receive a course certificate through the COM’s Office of Medical Education upon completion.

Step 1/Match Lists:

USMLE Step 1 average: 228/99% 1st time pass rate

Free USMLE prep course after MS2 year. A&M also provides USMLE UWorld question bank. We are given 7-8 weeks time off for USMLE Step 1 studying.

2012 match list: (class size was previously smaller than the current 200)
http://ift.tt/1WUzVT2 Texas AM Match.pdf

2013:
http://ift.tt/1WUzUOV Texas AM Match.pdf

2014: You will get a detailed match list, including hospital name, on interview day. Until it's published - Out of 156 students:
12-Anesthisiology, 21-Emergency Med, 12- Family Med, 34-Internal Med, 5-Gen Surgery, 2-Derm, 5-Opthamology, 1- Integrated Plastics, 1-Otolaryngology, 6-Ortho Surgery, 7-Diag Radiology, 2-Rad Oncology, 2-Urology, 1- Vascular Surgery, plus a few others.

Texas A&M University undergraduate affiliation:

As a Texas A&M HSC College of Medicine student, you also have access to Texas A&M University’s undergraduate campus – including rec center, sporting events, intramural sports, libraries, facilities, etc.

For matriculating students, we used “Texas A&M University” federal school code for FAFSA: 003632

Class Environment/Global Health & Clinical Volunteer Opportunities:

I think most TX schools seem pretty supportive, and this definitely holds true for A&M as well. For example, it's just May and the our new entering class has had more class hangouts than I can count already, and set up a shared google drive well before M1 orientation/class even started haha. M1-M4’s have helped us immensely before we even started with housing, class notes, free textbooks, advice, etc. They're awesome.

Students are able to volunteer at the nonprofit, free “Health For All” Clinic in B/CS where you can take patient vitals, history, physical, present to physician, write SOAP notes, etc. Also annual international mission trips available through Global Health Outreach and Christian Medical Association (2014 trips to Peru, Panama, Haiti, Belize, and McAllen), community health hullabaloo, health circus, and others. I will update with more opportunities as I learn about them!

Work/life balance? With 3+ half days every week, these 2 videos from the class of 2014 & 2016 answer that:

Interview Process:

For MD applicants: Two 30 minute 1-on-1 interviews. May be interviewed by MD’s, PhD’s, or current upper level students I believe. (open file – they have access to your MCAT, GPA, & app)

The questions from this page and other TX school pages prepared me perfectly for interviews:
http://ift.tt/1OaEv83
(click "questions" and then "show more responses")

A&M offers student hosts for those interviewing and need a place to stay.

Application Tips:

In addition to applying early, which is the biggest piece of advice you should follow, set yourself apart from others outside of academics/research. There are thousands of applicants who excelled academically, so what makes you different? Talk about and show HOW you are compassionate, HOW & WHY you want to help people. Outside of academics, schools want to see what makes you the caring and selfless physician your app says you will be. Continuous volunteering, shadowing, healthcare experience, involvement with EC’s, etc. can help you answer some of these qualities.

Why Texas A&M?

Additionally, feel free to ask here or PM me or other students why we chose A&M over other schools, or if you need help comparing them like I did last year (I would love to help and answer any questions)! I could write forever on why I chose A&M, I couldn’t be happier that I decided to come here and wouldn’t change my decision at all. A&M is growing rapidly and immensely, and I am excited to be apart of it. Here are a few of the many examples: within the last few years, they gained the top 2 hospitals in Texas as main rotation hospitals, and now the majority of our class will train in 3 of the top 10 hospitals in Texas. In 2015, they just built a brand new gross anatomy, teaching, and research building with offices, teaching labs, specimen rooms, prep areas, tank wash rooms, chemical and specimen storage rooms, locker rooms, etc. This building was designed so that it can be further expanded in the future. Additionally, in 2014, A&M HSC received a 68% increase in federal funding and crossed the $100 million threshold in total annual research expenditures. You will hear all about the ambitious vision/growth at interview day, it’s exciting times.

I encourage you to ask students at any school you interview at why they chose that school, if they’re happy with their decision, and what they do outside of school – I found that most students at all the TX schools seemed pretty honest and extremely helpful. Since most TX schools are pretty similar educationally, find what else is important to you (location, opportunities outside of school, support, etc) and compare them. Finally, any other questions, feel free to ask me, other current students, or A&M admissions - they are extremely welcoming and WANT to help you (they’ll even meet with you individually should you not get accepted to help you improve for the next application cycle). Good luck everyone!

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2015-2016 Texas A&M Health Science Center Application Thread

Official 2015-2016 Pulm/CCM Fellowship Application Cycle

2015-2016 Pennsylvania State University Application Thread

Secondary prompts for 2015-2016 app cycle:

If not currently enrolled in a full-time academic program, please summate your activities from the time of graduation from your baccalaureate program through the time of this application, as well as your plans between now and your matriculation to medical school. (Maximum 75 words)

Is there a unique aspect of your application that should be considered by the admissions committee? (Maximum 75 words)

Explain why you decided to apply to Penn State College of Medicine. (Maximum 75 words)

Please write a short paragraph describing a significant experience you have had working in a team setting. (Maximum 250 words)

Briefly describe an experience where you had to navigate a complex system (e.g. personal experience, group activity, or development of a project) to achieve an end. Reflect on the qualities and attributes required by you to achieve success in this experience. (Maximum 250 words)

Good luck, everyone! WE ARE...PENN STATE!

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2015-2016 Pennsylvania State University Application Thread

Western c/o 2020

Yeah also GRE scores need to be received before Sept. 15th. I called yesterday and spoke to an admissions counselor at Western, because online on the Western supplemental portal it said that they hadn't received my GRE scores yet which I thought was impossible. It also says that they didn't receive my 3 eLOR either. So when I called yesterday she said that they had actually received my GRE scores, but didn't write it in the system yet. They said they wait to receive everything until they update all of that. So I would call today or Monday and ask if they've received them. Western is my #1 choice btw!

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Western c/o 2020

2015-2016 Official Interview Thread; Emergency Medicine

Sad. I was going to post about my interviews, but then I asked myself, "What purpose does this serve?" It's just bragging. It's just to say, "hey, look at me, I got an interview at X"

Think about the people who want to go there and haven't gotten an invite yet. Why would anyone post about this? To use an adage from many attendings, "would this change the management?" i.e. would anyone do anything differently if they saw one of their desired programs had already invited people?

NO

Feel sorry for you guys.

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2015-2016 Official Interview Thread; Emergency Medicine

2015 - 2016 Nontrad Acceptances!

Case Western Reserve University: hueso 10/15, Eccesignum 11/4
Loyola: timsk 10/15
Oakland University William Beaumont: pageantry 10/15
SUNY Upstate: pageantry 10/26
Tulane: Eccesignum 10/16
Tufts: Idontknowwhatnametopick 11/03
University of California at Davis: pageantry 10/15
University of Central Florida: Glycereine 10/15
University of Illinois at Chicago: DaenerysTargaryen 10/31
University of Iowa: Cawolf 10/15
University of Michigan: DaenerysTargaryen 10/15
University of Texas HSC San Antonio: Cawolf 10/16
Virginia Commonwealth University: Eccesignum 10/16
Wayne State: Eccesignum 10/26

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2015-2016 Mayo Medical School Application Thread

I can't find the exact site I was looking at before (at least not quickly), but there is this from the M4 curriculum site:

"Students complete at least one of each category (medicine, pediatrics and surgery) in addition to general electives. These can be completed at Mayo Clinic campuses in Rochester, Minn., Arizona or Florida, as well as national and international locations. Many students complete an international or underserved population elective in the spring of the fourth year."

The original thing i was looking at had exact sites listed

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***The Official UNC SoD Class of 2020 Thread***

I got my interview invite in august last year, OOS student . They do 4-5 interview days and I got the impression last year that OOS people get first interview day. Other people told me similar.

UNC was fantastic. I just didn't like that I couldn't reschedule my original date. It was pretty much a take it or leave it attitude which I don't agree with if I'm asking to reschedule within the same hour of the original email(had to leave the country for a family matter) Luckily I got the last interview invitation a few months later and got to see how beautiful UNC and NC was. Defiantly have my eyes on the state for a possible relocation later in life.

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Western University - Pomona (COMP) Discussion Thread 2015 - 2016

Nope! You can have either. I know a lot of people who did MD shadowing and they were completely fine! Don't worry too much about this, it helps with the why DO? question but there are many other reasons and different ways you can answer this!
Hopefully this made sense, I'm sleepy

I'll be lurking around this thread every now and then, happy to help however I can!

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2015-2016 Morehouse School of Medicine Application Thread

ITEM 12 . Identify the one type of medical career listed below to which you may wish to devote the majority ofyour professional efforts:
Primary Care Other Specialty Care
Research and/or Teaching Undecided
b. Indicate the character of medical practice you presently contemplate:
Individual Partnership Private Group Hospital-based Group
Academic-based Group Public Health Industrial Undecided
c. What percent of your professional time do you anticipate devoting to:
Administration %
Teaching %
Patient care %
Research %
d. In which size community do you think you would like to practice?
Large metropolitan (100,000 people or more)
Small city (50,000 - 99,999) Large town (10,000 - 49,999) Small town, rural area, reservation (1,000 - 9,999) Undecided

Briefly, explain the reasons for your selections in item #12:

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Type a statement setting forth the key motivational factors in your decision to apply to Morehouse and any information about yourself you feel would be of interest to the Committee on Admission in the consideration of your application. Please keep the response to about one page. (You may want to type your answer in a Word Processor while you are off-line and paste your response here

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2015-2016 Morehouse School of Medicine Application Thread

Can someone help me make sense of this?

Ancedote du jour: I don't care what anyone says about SDN...if I'm not super busy...you'll see me here - rude, crude, ignorant, brilliant, loving...whatever form.

I was DYING to get into a clinical psychology doctoral program, it's all I wanted from a career, and got an offer in the 11th hour from a professional school (>$200K debt), having interviewed and wait-listed at my top choices. I was going to take it, but I had little babies then and my husband (although supportive) was business-minded and 110% against that kind of debt. Jon Snow gave me some solid advice (he was working in field and on SDN from time to time). After a back and forth with him, I released the offer with plans to apply the following year (it was my second year applying). Then, I got a funded offer a few MONTHS later. (I am a lucky duck. )

And I'm not even going to mention a special someone who gave me feedback at internship time about my essays...being overly psychodynamic at the time, the perspective was extraordinary and on target....revised it and matched at my #1. Maybe these old timer SDN, National Guards were harsh (they both rejected my rose-colored vision), but hell, if it didn't get me where I wanted to go. Thank you very much.

And now, you folks are helping me figure out my dissertation acknowledgements. I love it.

I owe SDN my patronage.

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Can someone help me make sense of this?

2016 Nontrad Applicants' Progress Thread

Overwhelmed with gratitude to be MS1 in August, looking for ways to pay forward all the kind assistance I received on this journey as I remember this time last year...

All I can say is hang in there, guys, keep your head down and check one box at a time. Anyone who says this application year isn't draining is not shooting straight--especially if you are nontrads, juggling management of a family, taking classes, working, and then piling onto all of this, flying and driving around the country for interviews. No one will ever know what it takes for us to pull this off unless they've done it.

If there's one thing I would constrain you to get squared away, it's this: For a nontrad, you want to very clearly be able to answer the question, "Why now?" --for yourself first, then for the personal statement and the interviews. The PS readers and interviewers need to be able to follow a logical progression through your story that has led you to this point in your life where you believe medicine is right for you. This is worth the trouble to think through and figure out exactly how to articulate, as it will keep coming up over and over.

Don't let anyone tell you that you are too old for this. You can decide you are too old for it at any point along the arduous path, but no one else can make that call for you. Just one more layer of encouragement--I have never seen anyone as old as I am on SDN as a premed, so if I'm not too old, you definitely are not.

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2016 Nontrad Applicants' Progress Thread

Class of 2015... How ya doing?

One week down, first anatomy quiz is this upcoming Thursday on the forelimb. I've got the bones, names of muscles, and most of the vasculature down. Working on origin, attachment, action, innervation right now. I felt overwhelmed on Thursday and part of Friday's anatomy lab, but less so now. We don't have a lecture portion of anatomy, it's basically just dive in and follow the instructions on the book. Not having guidance has been difficult for me to handle, because I get worried about cutting through something that I shouldn't...especially with the arteries and nerves. Otherwise, we have professional development, which addresses common issues that students in veterinary medicine deal with (proper human nutrition, sleep, stress) as well as issues we will deal with upon graduation (ethics), histology, and molecular biology. Histology is nothing earth shattering, and neither is molecular really. Radiology starts soon, pretty excited about that.

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University of Pikeville - Kentucky (UP-KYCOM) Discussion Thread 2015 - 2016

Hi, everyone! I don't know anything about how the secondary applications are going, but I will be a 2nd year student at KYCOM this fall if you have any questions! Best of luck to the entering class this year, and those who will be applying for next year!

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2015-2016 University of Rochester Application Thread

okay, this one down, Mayo down, only 24 more to go. Easiest one of the whole season.

But sort of sad I couldn't recycle one of my other essays about how I have been humbled, overcome an obstacle, why I'm not a selfish, self center pre-med, NOT.

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2015-2016 University of Rochester Application Thread

Alabama College of Osteopathic Medicine (ACOM) Discussion Thread 2015 - 2016

I was an applicant for the 2013-2014 cycle and although I did not attend this school, out of all the schools I interviewed at, this one was my favorite (it was also my very first interview, I was one of the first groups). The dean, faculty, campus, and even community were extremely welcoming. From the moment you walk into the school, you feel how they dedicated and driven everyone is. I ended up choosing another DO school that is close to home but wanted to share this with you guys. Be yourselves in all your interviews, it will take you far and don't get addicted to SDN!!

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2015-2016 Virginia Commonwealth University Application Thread

This year's prompt:

Imagine that you are a family physician and are seeing a 15 year old girl for menstrual cramps. Her mother has accompanied her for this visit. When you examine the patient without her mother present, she tells you that she is sexually active. She begs you not to tell her mother because of her family’s strong values against teen sex. Discuss your next steps.

2000 character limit (including spaces)

Good luck to everyone applying!

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2015-2016 Virginia Commonwealth University Application Thread

2015-2016 Dartmouth College (Geisel) Application Thread

I have a question concerning the Premedical Requirements on the secondary application, specifically for Biochemistry.

My school is on a quarter system, and I took one quarter of biochemistry. My official transcript hours are listed as 4, and AMCAS converted that value into 2.7 semester hours.

Does this satisfy the one-half year requirement despite the application listing "Biochemistry (4 Sem. Hrs.)"?

If so, do I input "2.7" into the "AMCAS Sem. Hours" box?

If not (and since they want you to put In Progress courses), what should I input for "College," "Department," "Course #," "Course Name," and "AMCAS Sem. Hours" if I am not currently enrolled in any sort of biochem course and don't plan to enroll until next year (before matriculation)?

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2015-2016 Dartmouth College (Geisel) Application Thread

Normal to fail 25% to half of class on exams during second year?

I am sorry you are frustrated by your curriculum and while the complaints you listed don't seem to be very common at all, I think all schools have students complain about lack of correlations to step 1 and nitpicky details. At my school, we learn a lot of the "latest" stuff that's not on step one yet and a lot of clinical pearls that may not be tested on step 1.

For the 25% failing an exam, we regularly have something similar occur for a notoriously difficult exam every year and then we had it happen again for a recently introduced exam covering a lot of information clinical medicine that we had to go do an official computer exam for (previously it was a take home with a due date). Besides that, we have not come close to those kinds of numbers refularly. When this situation did occur for the notoriously difficult exam the guaranteed pass at our school is 75% and the average was like a 71% so a majority of our class failed to hit a guaranteed pass and a significant number failed to hit the "buffer pass" which was a 70%

What they did was an analysis on the questions, found the ones the highest scorers had the highest variability on (some gunners answered A others B, others C) and used other methods to throw certain questions out. After this, everyone's scores increased and the average was a 79 which equated to a normally difficult exam. Everyone I know is still in med school with me but we have a big class. I am on curriculum committee at my school and at one meeting it was reported that approximately 6-10 students failed anatomy out of 300. From there on, I would assume that the failure rate would be much lower.

As for 91.7% pass rate for first year that you are reporting...I don't know...doesn't seem disastrous but still seems kind of low. In our class, we have a lower. rate and one factor is using a program called student "modification".

In this system, administration seeks out students who are at a high risk of failing their anatomy or histology (first series of classes) midway through the courses. (Example is if they scored 50% on their 1st of 4 equally weighted exams). They ask them them why they are failing and if they'd be interested in avoiding a failure on their transcript. If it's because of the burden and students say they'd do a lot better if they could focus on one course, they then are given the option to modify by taking two years to complete the first year curriculum and then take one course at a time. I initially thought that it seemed like a short term fix because what happens to the students when they get to second year material and have to do even more work? However, according to the data at our school, a majority of students who modify evolve and avoid future academic failures. Some even get better at it and many of those who modified did so for family or personal reasons, not academic ones so they were actually good student s in the firsT place.

So, as a long answer to your question, neither of those are normal and I suggest you first speak with your curriculum committee reps and then student senate. Curriculum committee reps will then bring up the issues with whoever is the associate dean of your basic sciences curriculum. He or she will then address it at the next curriculum committee meeting and hopefully they'll start realizing the need to change things. Honestly though, the course director is normally required to report course performance statistics (% honor, fail, etc.). However, it's still important to get student support because any wise medical school knows that an unhappy student body can be catastrophic to admissions.

What may help is holding a public forum on this issue or finding some way to gather secure (so no one can vote 10000x) quantative feedback before you make these moves.

Lastly, I am pretty sure the LCME takes student satisfaction very seriously and this sort of thing will not sit well with them at your next inspection so it is in the best interest of your school to do what is necessary sooner than later.

Hope this gets resolved!!

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Normal to fail 25% to half of class on exams during second year?

My chances at DO?

Program Specific Questions

Doctor on-board?

Based on what I recall from a lecture in residency:

1) Most important resource is that all airlines contract with telemedicine services that are on call to assist with medical decision making. The crew can patch you through to whatever service the airline is contracted with, you can describe the situation and your findings, and really it's on them to make decisions if you don't feel comfortable or are not sure what needs to be done. In this way, even a physician not used to dealing with emergencies (or even a medical student) can be very helpful because they can describe what is actually going on (i.e.: he is aphasic vs "he is out of it").

2) Medico-legally it's totally not clear which laws apply. Some sources say source country, some say destination, or maybe the stop over (if that's your situation) or the airline's country... Either way, it is probably a reasonable assumption that some sort of "good samaritan" logic applies, and you shouldn't have the medico-legal stuff hold you back from helping. If anything, a number of countries have laws obligating physicians to help in emergencies! Either way, you won't be able to figure it out in the midst of the situation, so just do what seems the most reasonable at the time. Keep in mind that usually "good samaritan" only applies if you do not receive compensation. I am not saying you would ever bill the passenger you assisted for your services, but receiving upgrades from the very grateful airline (even later) may be seen as compensation and likely void your good sam protection.

3) You will have access to oxygen at the very least, as well as the passenger's own medications. You will probably have access to a stethoscope, sphingomanometer, and some basic meds. If you are lucky you may have more advanced equipment (including AED, intubation equipment), but this is not standardized the world over. You will probably have access to other passengers' medications if you ask the crew to make an announcement, but this is likely to be useful in only a few situations (asthma attack, lost inhaler at the airport).

4) Biggest decision is likely to be is should we divert to nearest airport or can the crew continue to planned destination. Bear in mind that sometimes diverting to nearest airport may have a small increased risk that applies to a whole plane full of people and DEFINITELY has a huge cost associated with it. This will often be a moot point except on the longer flights.

5) Let the local EMTs take over once you land.

6) Seats in business/first class often go completely flat, so if your patient is pale, bleeding, syncopyzing, or just looks like crap, tell the airline staff they need to move his to business class seating so he can be flat. They should be able to arrange that. Also ask them for oxygen. It will at the very least make you look professional while you are figuring things out.

7) They will probably ask for your credentials.

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2015-2016 University of Vermont Application Thread

Prompts:

Diversity Statement and Question
The University of Vermont College of Medicine values diversity as a driver of excellence. We actively seek diversity and inclusion within our academic community of students, faculty, and staff, as well as those we serve through teaching, research, patient care and community engagement. We are committed to building an educational community made up of members with diverse talents, experiences, opinions, and backgrounds.

In reflecting on your personal background, talents, opinions and life experiences, how might you contribute to the overall diversity of the UVM COM community? (1000 characters maximum)

Additional Short Answer Essay Topics
Please write a short response to one of the following questions. (1000 characters maximum.)

Topic 1:
“Two roads diverged in a yellow wood
And sorry I could not travel both…”

• • 
    --Robert Frost, The Road Not Taken

Tell us about a time when you were at a crossroads and had to make an important choice. What do you think would have happened if you had made a different choice?

--OR--

Topic 2:
Reflect on a time in your life when you experienced failure or things didn’t go as you’d planned. How did this affect you?

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Washington university St. Louis post bac pre med

Hello everyone. This is my first time posting on SDN.
I've been admitted.

Is anyone looking for a roommate? I've been looking for an apartment for a week. Quadrangle is kinda expensive so I thought I'd just do my own research on finding an apartment or a roommate. But I'd rather live with a roommate and save some money.

If you have any info pls pass it on.

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RAVE HERE thread

Alright, I've been pretty quiet for a few days, but I've had this post brewing.

I am a ridiculously lucky person.

I have been with my husband for seven years (three months, four days) now, and I love him more, right now as he brushes his teeth in the bathroom around the corner, than I have during any moment that has come to pass. We understand each other and get along in such a way that I can't really explain it without sounding braggish or superior somehow, so I won't. It's remarkable, though, and for this reason alone I feel like I could post here a million times over - once for every minute I've spent with him so far.

Sorry, that was pretty damn squishy. Haha.

On top of that, I have a wonderful house, very little debt, loving parents, friends and family that are dear to me, and three pets that make my life a joy.

Given all this, I refuse to even approach the idea that my life is somehow incomplete or unfulfilled without the privelege of attending a veterinary school, much less consider it. Yes, it's what I have wanted to do for the longest time, and yes, I have spent the last six years thinking of little else... but would another round of rejections really make my life any worse? Could it change what I have now?

I've spent the last few weeks deep in thought about where my priorities lie, and honestly, I'll probably spend a few more. I have no doubts that veterinary medicine is what I want, but I am considering what would, for me, be too much. Like, living separately, etc. etc.

Haha... this began as a rave and ended in a rant. Sorry!

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****The Official Tufts U. School of Dental Medicine c/o 2020 interview/acceptance Thread****

What do you guys think about my stats for Tufts?
Minority and Alabama resident
BCP GPA - 3.62
Total GPA - 3.39
Research experience of more than 2 years.
Shadowing still in progress, so far 40+ hrs.
DAT scores - PAT 20/ QR 15 / RC 17/ Bio 19/ GC 19/ OC 18/ TS 18/ AA 18.
Volunteer & Community services: Research for 1 semester, veterans donation camp, & temple.

Already got an application complete email on 09/04

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2015-2016 Drexel University Application Thread

I'm pre-writing secondaries now and am assuming Drexel's secondary essay prompt will be the same or similar to last year:

"Please give details about any interruption or time away from your education, which includes the time since graduation. Detail your activities for each year away from school."

I looked through last year's thread but was unable to find a character or word limit for the essay. Does anyone know if there is a word/character limit on Drexel's secondary essay, and if so, what it is? Thanks!

Also, as a non-trad, I have 4 years between graduation from college and applying to medical school. Most of my 4 years is pretty well-documented in my Work and Activities section on AMCAS, so is it necessary to go in-depth in terms of what I did these four years? Or will a paragraph simply stating what I did each year suffice?

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2015-2016 Drexel University Application Thread

Any 27-29 MCAT with interviews????

NYMC, Drexel, EVMS, VCU/MCV, Downstate, Wayne State

As you can see, none of these are top schools, but who cares, they're all great programs IMO.

As for secrets, I really couldn't tell you. Some might call me lucky, I have 1 summer of clinical experience and the rest of my AMCAS is stuff I enjoy (fitness hobbies/jobs). IMO, if there was 1 strength to my application, it would be the fact that I was consistent with that 1 fitness aspect. It's what I truly love, and what drove my towards medicine, and I let schools know that in every way possible.

If you really want a secret, it would be to apply early and broadly, and keep your fingers crossed. Good luck y'all! You really don't need 30+ to get into medical school, although it would definitely help.

Edit: And Oh yea, play up your strengths as much as possible, not your weaknesses.

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Official 2015-2016 Hematology/Oncology Fellowship Application Cycle

Hi Gutonc, Thank you for your wishes.
I am a newbie here and would really appreciate your advice, below are my credentials:

Negatives:
1- IMG.
2- J1 visa holder.
3- No PHD or major Basic research experience.
4- Few non oncology related peer reviewed publications

Positives:
-PGY2 in a 2nd tier university program
-Step 1,2,3: 232,247,235
-MPH estimated completion in 06/2016
- 3 strong LOR from research mentor and 2 oncology big names
- PD LOR: pending meeting
-ASH HONORS award: 7,000 $ grant
- Best abstract award + 2 scholarships awards
- 6 First author peer reviewed manuscripts ( IF between 1,6 to 6,5)
- 3 abstracts/posters at national ASCO
- 2 First author Book chapters (MPN/MDS)
- Was involved in phase 2-3 trials (study coordinator)

No geographical restrictions (prefer the warmth of the south)
Interested in clinical investigator track
Research interest: AML, GU, outcome research.

1- Advice regarding meeting with PD of internal medicine: Should I ask for their support with phone calls to specific prog. of interest?
2- I have a feeling that the first round of invited interviewee selection is extremely random: Any advice? Should I email specific program coordinators of interest?
3- Advice on PS: do I specify a tumor type of interest
4- I know its a vague request: would you recommend any institutions that would match my interest/profile (as an j1 visa holder) to optimize my career development
5- Would you or anyone else for a list of academic institutions that offer H1 waiver for their fellows as junior faculty ?

Please excuse the long post
thanks

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2015-2016 Temple University Application Thread

they changed the third question, are you supposed to answer it if you choose the regular temple campus??

old question:
If you indicated St. Luke's Regional Campus or one of our clinical campuses (Crozer-Chester Medical Center, Geisinger Health System, or West Penn Allegheny Health System) as your first choice, please describe the nature of your special interest. Otherwise, please type N/A to continue.

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A.T. Still University Kirksville (ATSU-KCOM) Discussion Thread 2015 - 2016

Some good things about KCOM (I start school in a month as an OMS1):

Small town = anywhere you live is walking/biking distance from campus (and to be honest, it's not like you will have a ton of spare time anyway).
Even though you are 1.5 hours away from the nearest mall, you are 2 1/2 hours from Des Moines & Kansas City, 3 from St. Louis, and 6 from Chicago. We just came back from Chicago and so you can pick which "big" city you want to visit on breaks.

Super tight-knit community (most students meet up and help each other even before school starts). Locals are super accommodating and friendly too. This town is a medical school/college town. It has the essentials, fast food places, home depot, a HUGE super Walmart, good diners, an awesome beach off of 1000 hills (a lake 5-10 minutes from town). It's also super picturesque in terms of landscape- I know why some people love living here. Driving through the national park right next to town makes that obvious. If you are outdoorsy I think this is a really good place to be. I like it because I live right next to campus with my wife and 3 kids and I can come home/go to school whenever I want (some schools I got accepted to required me to drive for 20-40 mins to get to campus because the safe neighborhoods are relatively far from the campus which in my eyes is an inconvenience and added expense).

My wife and I are city people and we have lived here a month and really like it. Can't speak for everyone but I'd say give it a chance.

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A.T. Still University Kirksville (ATSU-KCOM) Discussion Thread 2015 - 2016

What are my chances?

Hi all,

I am currently a senior and my GPA stands around a 3.05 right now. I still have 38 credits left (including this semester) and I will be retaking 3 classes (Chem 1 &2 and Orgo 2) during the summer at another school (not a CC) after I graduate. For this semester, my GPA is right around a 3.8 and I plan to get the same if not shoot for a 4.0 next semester and As on the 3 retakes. I believe when its all said and done, I should be right around a 3.4-3.5 GPA.

My ECs are pretty decent (I think). I have roughly 400 hours of volunteering at a hospital (mostly underprivileged individuals), 300 hours of shadowing an MD (family friend but Ill also try to shadow a DO in December-January), and 1500 hours of paid work hours in the Biology and Chemistry labs as a lab assistant at my school.

As far as the MCAT goes, I am shooting for above a 510 and really think that with proper studying and timing I'll be able to get a 514-517. However, in order to give myself the proper timing, Id most likely have to take it in September. So Id be submitting my application in September with an MCAT pending and my scores should arrive when Im verified.

I live and plan on staying in NY/NJ and would be applying to NY/NJ MD and DO schools so I am just wondering what my chances would be for either one?

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Marian University (MU-COM) Discussion Thread 2015 - 2016

For the 2015—2016 admissions cycle, MU-COM has established the following dates:

June 15, 2015
AACOMAS mailing #1 available.

June 16, 2015
Download mailing #1.

June 17, 2015
Pre-screening begins.

June 19, 2015
Supplemental application invitations start.

July 15, 2015
AACOMAS application must be received by MU-COM for Early Decision and Pre-Medical Fast Track Programs.

August 15, 2015
All application materials must be received by MU-COM for Early Decision and Pre-Medical Fast Track Programs.

September 11, 2015
Interviews start.

September 17, 2015
Admissions Committee starts.

September 19, 2015
National Pre-SOMA Conference at MU-COM.

February 1, 2016
AACOMAS application deadline.

March 1, 2016
Supplemental application deadline at 5 PM EDT.

March 4, 2016
Processing ends. Materials received after 5 PM EDT will not be processed.

April 2, 2016
Interviews end.

May 5, 2016
Admissions Committee ends.

MU-COM reserves the right to change these dates.

Sincerely,
MU-COM Admissions

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2015-2016 University of Alabama Application Thread

Any MSTP people hear back from UAB yet? I received an email on Thursday of two weeks ago saying that they would notify us "in 2 weeks" if we had been selected to interview. Two weeks would be tomorrow, and I'm getting so anxious!!!! Lol trying to stay calm here but wondering what boat other MSTP applicants are in! Thanks so much and good luck to all!!

Funny EDIT: I just had a heart attack because I got an email from UAB. But it was a complete false alarm! I posted on this thread because my friend received an email earlier basically saying "you should apply to the MSTP at UAB. And if you already have applied, thanks!" I just received the same email. Currently alternating between laughing and crying! Hahaha!

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2015-2016 Howard University Application Thread

Hey everyone, I'm also applying to Howard! I'm also a non-URM minority (if that matters??) and I've got a low GPA/decent MCAT and a whole lot of heart so I'm hoping they see that

Aside from staying in NY (it's home, and its NY lol), I would gladly relocate to DC for Howard (I've spent some time in DC and liked it).

Best of luck everyone! Can't wait till secondaries are out.

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Things I Learn From My Patients

If you have been in your LOCKED APARTMENT for the past 48 hours, all alone, it is highly unlikely that you have been raped in your sleep.

You are not an alchoholic if you drink 2-3 beers per month.

The government problably does not in fact have a microchip in your spine and a camera planted in your eyeball so they can see everything you see. That is, unless those things were implanted in you as a baby when you had open heart surgery...ok, now I can understand that the government has got a lock on you...

If you are bending over, with your head 1" from the door, it will probably be hit when I open it.

If your dentures do not stick to your gums, probably not a good idea to superglue them on!

Despite your recent success at cutting off your own arm with a steak knife, you probably do not need to cut off your scrotum and testicles with said knife.

If the doctor asks you if it hurts where he is touching you, and he is NOT TOUCHING YOU, don't answer that he is hurting you.

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Texas PT School Apps 2015-2016 (PTCAS/non-PTCAS)

During the last application cycle, a member (@luxsit90) here at SDN posted a thread for the 2014-2015 cycle that really sparked the communication between all who were looking or were applying to PT school here in Texas. I found that thread during the time that I needed confidence and advice on what to do, where to apply, and how to cope with the application processes.

I applied to three Texas schools and ended up getting accepted to all of them. I give my thanks to this forum filled with the most helpful people you could meet that are not only looking to apply themselves, but also looking to help you make decisions that can really change your life.

I signed up with the mentality of not applying that cycle. Within a month of searching here, talking with other members, and looking at past experience in the countless of pages here at SDN, I made the decision to do everything needed to apply, and it ended up being the smartest decision that I made. This forum was the beginning of my application journey.

So, in that regard, my application journey is over, but yours may just be beginning. I encourage you to search the forums and browse the sticky threads if you're looking at basic advice about low GRE, GPA, or observation questions before you ask on this thread.

If all else fails and confidence as well as information is needed, then post your thoughts here. Some of us can help you, give advice, and/or give our point of view with the application process for certain schools (especially non-PTCAS schools) and our experiences with each of them.

Heck, if it just helps to just unload everything on your mind then go for it, we understand.. oh we understand.

Best,

SDN Member

These are the following accredited programs in Texas:
Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
Hardin-Simmons University (Abilene, TX)
Texas State University (San Marcos, TX)
Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center (Lubbock, TX)
Texas Woman's University (Dallas, TX)
The University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio (San Antonio, TX)
The University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston (Galveston, TX)
The University of North Texas Health Science Center at Fort Worth (Fort Worth, TX)
University of St. Augustine for Health Sciences (Austin, TX)
University of Texas El Paso (El Paso, TX)
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas (Dallas, TX)
US Army-Baylor University (Fort Sam Houston, TX)

Developing Program:
University of the Incarnate Word (San Antonio, TX)
Caroline Goulet, PT, PhD
Dean
School of Physical Therapy
4301 Broadway, CPO 412
San Antonio, TX 78209-6397
Program: 210/283-6472
Email: [email protected]
First Class Graduates: 05/2015

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2015-2016 Medical College of Wisconsin Application Thread

Just received the secondary. You have to pick which campus(es) you want to be considered for. And then answer "Why MCW?" 1000 characters including spaces. Some demographic questions and if you were previously enrolled in graduate school or are currently enrolled, you have to include an additional letter of recc.

If you choose one of the regional campuses (Green Bay or Central Wisconsin) you have 6 additional essays in addition to the "Why MCW" essay:

1. Describe your motivation for pursuing a community-based medical education program.Include how your motivation will prepare you for your future career in medicine. Identify experiences in which you have lived or otherwise interfaced with rural or medical under-served communities and how they have influenced you.
Character Limit: 3,000 including spaces

2. Include how your motivation will prepare you for your future career in medicine. Identify experiences in which you have lived or otherwise interfaced with rural or medical under-served communities and how they have influenced you.
Character Limit: 3,000 including spaces

3. Describe the community in which you envision yourself ultimately living and practicing medicine.Address the benefits and challenges of life in your specified community.
Character Limit: 2,000 including spaces

4. Address the benefits and challenges of life in your specified community.
Character Limit: 2,000 including spaces

5. Describe a time when you found a creative solution to a challenging or unfamiliar situation.Include what you learned from the experience.
Character Limit: 2,000 including spaces

6. Include what you learned from the experience.
Character Limit: 2,000 including spaces

Good luck everyone!

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2015-2016 University of Illinois Application Thread

Last 3 years questions for UIC's secondary:

1. Describe a situation in which you were really stressed. Tell us how you dealt with it. Please detail your reaction(s), and how it affected you. If this situation, or a similar one, were to happen again, how would you handle it? (DO NOT EXCEED 250 words)

2. Describe a hobby or activity other than something in medicine, in which you have a keen interest. Why? (do not exceed 250)

3. Optional: Describe any advantages and/or complications you encountered during your progression in education. Please include any noteworthy achievements and/or obstacles. (Examples: Acute or chronic illnesses, employment, financial difficulty, managerial role in household, etc.) (Don't exceed 150 words) If you did not experience an advantage and/or complication during your education please indicate 'Not Applicable'.
I seek your opinions/advice on 3 parts of this...

1. Is it "taboo" or otherwise not wise to discuss a death in the family?

2. What if my main "hobby" was already included as an AMCAS activity? I don't want to be repetitive, but it seems like so many of these prompts are basically already answered in the primary.

3. Should I fill out #3 if I already wrote a disadvantaged statement for AMCAS?

Thank you

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2015-2016 University of Illinois Application Thread

SGU c/o 2020 Applicants

Hey guys. I was accepted to SGU last year and I made the decision- after visiting the school- to not attend. Here are my reasons:

A doctor I work with in a specialty practice used to work there as an instructor. She told me that there were many issues with how they budgeted and spending to improve facilities was not in the budget. When I visited I noticed how small and run down things looked.

Most of the professors are adjunct faculty wanting to spend time on an island for a bit. Sometimes, you get a top professor in the field that knows their stuff, and cares about their students, but more commonly, you get a SGU grad or foreign professor that is not the top in their field. This can lead to older information being taught as new, and language barriers to those trying to learn from foreign professors. It also leads to graduates with knowledge gaps as veterinarians, which is one of the reasons new grads are discriminated against.

In addition to these issues, SGU is newly accredited, and has the possibility of loosing accreditation in a few years. This was my number one reason for withdrawing my seat in the class. The doctor I work with did not want to give me too much information on this, but essentially, SGU is in danger of loosing accreditation if they do not fulfill actions required by the board.

And finally, I confirmed my decision not to attend SGU by working with interns that recently graduates from there. These interns were frightened by routine ER cases, did not have the proper training to take on cases by them selves (they depended on the other doctors and techs for medical knowledge), and they were all in serious debt from the school. The interns were not allowed to defer all loans taken out during school- some loans were directly from SGU and these had to be paid starting as soon as 6 months out even though government loans could be deferred during an internship.

In conclusion, SGU is not the same as in state schools. That being said, one of the same interns that I personally thought has very little medical knowledge fresh out of SGU, is now in a surgical residency in Texas. He is now fulfilling his dreams of becoming a small animal surgeon because he went to SGU, and became a doctor.

In short, it is what you make of it. I felt I needed to let you all know what you won't find on the google searches about SGU, so you are better prepared.

Good luck, applicants! Make your education count! And have a good time on the island! The water is BEAUTIFUL.

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2015-2016 Stony Brook University Application Thread

Secondary Prompts:
ESSAY QUESTIONS (Please limit your responses to one page per question)

1. Will your education be continuous between college and medical school matriculation? YES NO
If YES, please tell us what you anticipate you will be doing professionally 15 years after graduating from medical school and why.
If NO, please explain what you have done or plan to do during the gap period and why.

2. DESCRIBE AN OBSTACLE YOU'VE OVERCOME AND HOW IT HAS DEFINED YOU.

Good luck to everyone applying!

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Pedo Applicants 2016

Hi,

I'm a practicing dentist in Oregon. I'm considering applying for a pedo residency. A few questions:

Has anyone found a good resource giving info on number of pediatric dentists per state, income, etc?

Do I need the DentPIN to apply? This was not required when I was going through dental school?

Anybody out there considering OHSU?

Thanks.
N

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Pro's and Con's of accepting Medicaid...

Business as usual just isn't going to pencil out in caring for this cohort. If you take the 45y/o -54y/o
CNP cohort - probably the highest risk of bad outcome - an OR CCO is given about $7-8K/yr to manage
all of their care. Even before being diagnosed with CNP the cost of managing the patients described below
was $20K. It's hard not to predict that specialty care and pharmacy costs are going to be a big target.

Pain Pract. 2015 Oct 7. doi: 10.1111/papr.12357. [Epub ahead of print]
Cost Burden of Chronic Pain Patients in a Large Integrated Delivery System in the United States.
Park PW1, Dryer RD2, Hegeman-Dingle R1, Mardekian J1, Zlateva G1, Wolff GG3, Lamerato LE3.
Author information

Abstract
OBJECTIVES:
To estimate all-cause healthcare resource utilization and costs among chronic pain patients within an integrated healthcare delivery system in the United States.

METHODS:
Electronic medical records and health claims data from the Henry Ford Health System were used to determine healthcare resource utilization and costs for patients with 24 chronic pain conditions. Patients were identified by ≥ 2 ICD-9-CM codes ≥ 30 days apart from January to December, 2010; the first ICD-9 code was the index event. Continuous coverage for 12 months pre- and postindex was required. All-cause direct medical costs were determined from billing data.

RESULTS:
A total of 12,165 patients were identified for the analysis. After pharmacy, the most used resource was outpatient visits, with a mean of 18.8 (SD 13.2) visits per patient for the postindex period; specialty visits accounted for 59.0% of outpatient visits. Imaging was utilized with a mean of 5.2 (SD 5.5) discrete tests per patient, and opioids were the most commonly prescribed medication (38.7%). Annual direct total costs for all conditions were $386 million ($31,692 per patient; a 40% increase from the pre-index). Pharmacy costs comprised 14.3% of total costs, and outpatient visits were the primary cost driver.

CONCLUSIONS:
Chronic pain conditions impose a substantial burden on the healthcare system, with musculoskeletal conditions associated with the highest overall costs. Costs appeared to be primarily related to use of outpatient services. This type of research supports integrated delivery systems as a source for assessing opportunities to improve patient outcomes and lower the costs for chronic pain patients.

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Pro's and Con's of accepting Medicaid...

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I don't know a lot of conformation-only breeders, but I do know a lot of people who work and breed dogs (who maybe do conformation on the side just to get the titles on their dogs). The reason a well-bred puppy from a responsible breeder may (and I mean MAY, some of them are around the same price as the sad genetic wastelands you find at Petland or whatnot) cost more is that these people put a whole lot more into their dogs too. Genetic testing, training, show/trial entering fees, travel to all of those...it's not cheap. Most really good breeders aren't really making $$$$ on their puppies at all despite the prices. And usually there's a variable price per puppy anyhow, dependent on whether the animal is a good work/show/breeding prospect or will be sold as a pet.

And yes, bulldogs are screwed up as they currently are bred.

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University of Houston C/O 2020 Applicants

What do you guys think my chances of getting in are?
3.55 GPA, 92 PCAT, pharmacy experience, hospital volunteer, organization involvement, and leadership in mentoring.

I know people with better stats than myself who got rejected and am a bit worry that UH doesn't exactly focus on stats (more on the interview)

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***The Official Stonybrook Class of 2020 Interview/Acceptance Thread***

Just got back from my tour of Stonybrook Dental school. I'm all giddy now. It was awesome guys. Every person I spoke with was super friendly. The students seemed really supportive, and it was nice to see all the D2s hanging out together and playing pingpong in the lounge while waiting for class to begin, while the D4s were at work in the clinic. Really put things into perspective. If you guys have any questions about the school feel free to ask

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2015-2016 Oakland University (Beaumont) Application Thread

Since the secondary questions have been the same for the last 3 years, I'm willing to bet it's going to be the same again:

Essay #1: What have you done to make your community a better place? (400 Words)

Essay #2: (Optional): Is there anything you want the admissions committee to know about your qualifications for medical school that is not already represented in your application materials? Note: This space is provided for new information only, not to promote qualifications already highlighted in your other materials. (400 Words)

Essay #3: (Optional): Please explain any gaps in your education, if applicable. (400 Words)

Oakland is one of my top choices and where I think I might be competitive, so it is the first secondary that I will pre-write. Any tips on how to approach Essay #1? I'm thinking of going in depth on two activities that I'm involved in. Do they want us to write about medically related activities, or can it be about anything?

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2015-2016 New York University Application Thread

+1 just got it.

1) If applicable, please comment on significant fluctuations in your academic record which are not explained elsewhere on your application.

2) If you have taken any time off from your studies, either during or after college, please describe what you have done during this time and your reasons for doing so.

The following questions are designed to assess ways in which you embody our institution’s core values. Please limit each answer to a maximum of 2500 characters.

3) The Admissions Committee uses a holistic approach to evaluate a wide range of student qualities and life experiences that are complementary to demonstrated academic excellence, strong interpersonal skills and leadership potential.

What unique qualities or experiences do you possess that would contribute specifically to the NYU School of Medicine community?

4) The ultimate goal of our institution is to produce a population of physicians with a collective desire to improve health of all segments of our society through the outstanding patient care, research and education. In this context, where do you see your future medical career (academic medicine, research, public health, primary care, business/law, etc.) and why? Your answer need not be restricted to one category. If your plans require that you complete a dual degree program, please elaborate here.

5) Please answer only one of the following three questions:

1. The most meaningful achievements are often non-academic in nature. Describe the personal accomplishment that makes you most proud. Why is this important to you?
   
2. Conflicts arise daily from differences in perspectives, priorities, worldviews and traditions. How do you define respect? Describe a situation in which you found it challenging to remain respectful while facing differences?
   
3. Describe a situation in which working with a colleague, family member or friend has been challenging. How did you resolve, if at all, the situation as a team and what did you gain from the experience that will benefit you as a future health care provider?

They really go all out, don't they. In recent years there's been a trend from NYUSOM to try and be a top tier (see: UPenn, WashU, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, etc.) med school and I don't know if it's actually happening, though they sure like to give off the appearance that they are. I mean, just 3 years ago their mean (or median, I don't remember) MCAT was around 31, and last year it was a 37.

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2015-2016 New York University Application Thread

GPA's, GRE's, XTRA's, ACCEPTANCES

University: Carlow University
Major: Biology, with certification in Secondary Education
Overall GPA: 3.59
Pre-Req GPA: 3.57
GRE: 530V, 650Q, 5.5W

Extra-Curric: Varsity soccer, Student Athlete Association Treasurer, Lab Assistant, Resident Assistant, Resident Student Association, Tri-Beta Bio honor society, KDE education honor society, PASWAT (PA students working against tobacco), Alternative Spring Break (Hurricane Katrina Relief), Habitat for Humanity, Relay for Life, Youth Group leader

Volunteer: (at time of app.) 50hrs. outpatient clinic, 50hrs. inpatient/outpatient peds at chilren's hospital

Acceptances: Chatham University, University of Pittsburgh

Rejections: n/a

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Two New Med Schools For Montana; Burrell exec takes private jet

A for-profit firm called Manipal Education Americas wants to build its first U.S. medical school in Missoula.

In existence for 50 years, Manipal runs schools in India, Malaysia, Nepal and Antigua, and some of its students do residencies in the U.S. As envisioned, the Montana College of Osteopathic Medicine would enroll its first students in 2017 or 2018.

Neal Simon of Manipal said the school produces doctors who land residencies at top sites in North America, including the Mayo Clinic, Yale School of Medicine and the University of Toronto. Manipal describes itself as one of the largest owners and operators of medical schools in the world.
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Another school, Burrell College of Osteopathic Medicine, is looking to locate in Bozeman at Montana State University, according to MEP.
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Manipal would seek to enroll 150 medical students a year, and it has affiliations with 40 teaching hospitals across the U.S. that already offer residencies to its other students, he said. The school in Missoula would be its first bricks-and-mortar educational institution in the U.S.
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Before it opens its doors, the college in Montana would be accredited and licensed, he said. He also noted the oversight and requirements to get accreditation for a college of osteopathic medicine are strict.

"So it would be very hard for a for-profit school that wanted to cut corners to get that accreditation," Simon said.

He said he didn't want to denigrate Burrell, but one of its executives flew into a community on a private jet. On the other hand, he said Manipal looks to earn a profit over the long term.

"We don't put our money into private jets. We put our money into medical education," Simon said.

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Western U DPT 2016

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Hi everyone,
I sent in my application this morning as well as the supplemental apps. I'm wondering if I applied too late?
Did anyone get accepted into the program already?
How was the interview? What should I expect and how should I prepare the interview? Are there specific interview questions you can share here?

Thank you!

Western U DPT 2016

Do NOT go into Dentistry - Trust me it is SATURATED

So - I'd like to begin by first saying that this is a throwaway, because I don't really feel like having any of you discover who I am - (never underestimate the power of the internet. Dentistry is a very “front” facing profession. Your mug will be plastered on the website of whatever office you decide to work at.) Because of this, I will try to keep personal details to a min.

What has compelled me to go back to SDN, and write what appears to be a memoir? I’m fed up with the field, and everything it stands for. My brother is EM physician (just finished his residency a few years back), and I am pretty sure I'm able to see both sides.

So, young‘uns - 1st - SDN has a reputation for being all doom and gloom. A “sky is falling mentality” I guess. Can’t say I chuckled when I first started going through threads several years back during dental school. But now as a graduate, and practicing dentist… its funny how things work out. The field is saturated, and due to market forces we, as dentists can’t really control, it is definitely headed in a downwards trajectory. Don’t say I didn’t warn you guys.

I graduated roughly 5 years ago. I came out with several hundred thousand dollars of debt. I didn’t think too much about paying them off - I figured I’d just start associating and the rest would take care of itself.

I’m making good progress on it - but my issues with dentistry lie not so much with the debt (although thats a huge part - especially nowadays. Other people have covered this - so I’m not going to delve into it too much), but other issues with the field most people wouldn’t think about if they were applying today.

1) SATURATION. I kid you not - Dentistry is headed towards a zero sum race to the bottom.
There really are too many dentists. Straight up - the field is headed the way of pharmacy. Dental chains are buying out every retiring dentist, and squeezing out completion. On the surface - you’re like “oh - well the ADA says that we’re facing a shortage of dentists! They NEED me!” No. Stop. If you actually think this, go back and apply to medical school, where residency spots are tied to funding, and can’t be multiplied 2x at a whim. I have friends who graduated in my class who are still stuck with 90k associating gigs.​

I firmly believe that the issue is mainly because 1) Too many grads with too many loans are flooding the marketplace, and more importantly - 2) Older dentists ARE NOT RETIRING. This is HUGE. If you go back to 2001-2002, people were saying that dentistry would be facing a shortage, that there wouldn’t be enough docs to make sure little Timmy’s tooth decay wouldn’t go unchecked.​

The numbers of dentists needed today per 100,000 people are less than what was needed two decades ago. Dentists today are more efficient, have broader training, and are capable of doing more (no more referring everything out - new docs are now doing extractions, Invisalign, you name it). But older docs aren’t retiring. What happens is a “semi-retirement” where the doc comes in 1 day a week, still owns the office, etc, and the poor associate is only making ~90k a year (60k after taxes, and 30k after repaying loans. I’m not kidding). This all resulted in a huge increase in the # of dentists, especially after the financial crisis. According to a recent ADA survey - 1/3 of dentists AREN’T busy enough! This is huge! In addition, the number of dentists has continued to go up EACH year, after the ADA said there was a shortage back in ~2005

2) The debt isn’t quite worth it anymore. I graduated 5 years back, and I thought my debt was a lot. For everyone intending to go 300-500k in debt, you realize thats 30k+ in interest every year? Paying pack 4k a month out of every paycheck? For what its worth - you’re making ~90k when you start. The way the field is now, a GPR is basically essential. You realize you’re in school ONLY 2 years less than an EM physician? And they get paid ~330k when they start working. 2 extra years, and you quadruple your salary? I firmly believe anyone who is in dental school could easily have gone to med school, even if you need to do a postbacc - it’s within range. Strictly financially, Medicine has FAR more to offer.

3) You feel like a used car salesman with all the competition.

If you’re an introverted person, or are not comfortable “coaxing” people to accept procedures they might not otherwise, drop out of the field right now. This isn’t even corporate - its you trying to keep your office afloat/trying to pay your student loans. Yes, that patient 50/50 could have a crown or no, but if YOU don’t do it, another dentist down the street IS going to do it, and pocket the $2000 themselves.

Back in the day (think 80’s) if a tooth didn’t hurt/bug the patient, the dentist left it alone. Nowadays, with every one and their mom is trying to sell each patient a full mouth reconstruction (as well as offering massages and other bull**** remedies) is it no wonder people don’t take dentists seriously? No joke, the office down the street from me is a “Dental Spa” that offers a full range a skin rejuvenations, massages, and other girly/try-hard stuff I’ll have to ask my wife about because I don’t know what any of it is

4) Backbreaking work. No joke it’s only been five years, and my lower back is killing me very day. My hands hurt, and my shoulders feel like they're made of stone. Add in the fact I'm looking at mouths all day - the novelty has worn off.

5) The job itself leaves much to be desired. You clean/fix teeth. Thats it. You don’t do complex jaw surgeries (no, Mr. Oral Surgeon - you don’t. You pull 3rds all day in private practice pretending you're a doctor) and you definitely don’t do anything reconstructive asides from teeth. You’re a glorified tooth mechanic. Now don’t get me wrong - I love what I do - but there are other things that now, after several years of practice, I feel like I would also derive pleasure from doing.

6) Insurance companies will f****** gut you and leave you to die on the street. Reimbursements are going down . You might ask — “why does this affect me? I’m going to run a FFS practice!” It affects you because FFS is only viable in certain areas - Anywhere from 0% (lol you wish) to 80% of your payer mix will be PPO. Delta Dental is the bane of my existence and basically a monopoly in several places - they provide dental insurance coverage for 1/3 of the adults in the United States. This monopoly is FEDERALLY protected - meaning there’s no competition for dental benefits/price. The McCarran–Ferguson Act (http://ift.tt/1PzMyhP) basically allows this. I can’t drop them because 40% of my patients have their insurance, and last year when they decided to cut fees in my area by 5%, I got screwed to the tune of 70-80k in lost income. This leads me to my next point…

7) Dentistry is influenced by market trends/the squeezing of the middle class. The middle class is getting squeezed. Now this definitely affects you, because 20+ years ago, many, many more jobs were unionized, more people had dental insurance, and more people took the time to see the dentist. Average family income (adjusted for inflation) hasn’t risen in a decade! Things like raising the minimum wage, for example, will actually HELP dentists because it makes the average person more likely to afford/see a dentist. But the way it is now, the average family is poorer than they were 10 years ago, and this translates to less than 50% of us adults actually having dental insurance and an even smaller amount using it.

8) Other minor things - such as running an office, insurance write-offs, dealing with people in general, and lack of respect among EVERYONE (the latter being a pretty small issue, as least for me - but I know how neurotic everyone is on SDN, so this might be something to keep in mind)​

Now - all this might seems sort of convoluted. I’m typing this right now after a particularly frustering day at my office. I can see how this profession might have worked a decade or two ago. But I swear to god - I’m not sure if the next 10 years are going to be very much fun for anyone. I have zero bargaining power with insurance companies. Incomes have stagnated - and as a new dentist, you can expect maybe 90k-120k or so - and you’ll be stuck at that level for 2-5+ years. The real kicker is the saturation though. All the rest, most people can deal with. But when 4+ offices go bankrupt in my suburb every year - I’m starting to realize that the field is cracking. Incomes are slowly decreasing - I expect within 5 years or so average starting salary for an associate will be in the 80-100k range (it already is in a lot of places)

For all the people who think I’m some sort of SDN troll - heres a QA section for ya:

Q. You sound mad - well, I’ll have you know- I’m going to be a super dentist! I’ll be the one to buck trends and pay off my 400k loans in 5 years! Just watch me!

A. Ok, Jimmy, good luck. With 400k in loans, no bank is going to loan you money to even purchase a practice. You’ll be making 90k for the next 7 years. You can moonlight as a doctor while in residency and make more than that

Q. Why did you even go into Dentistry if you hate it?

A. I still like dentistry - it’s just that the field is dying, or at least, headed towards a huge “market correction” and I can see it clearly from my vantage point. I feel like a pharmacist circa 2000 making 120k, and life was good. Fast forward 10 years…

Q. Where are you pulling that figure from - 90k as a starting salary of a dentist? Every survey I see says 140k.

A. Those salary surveys are compounded over years and years - meaning they still have data from 2005 when associates used to be paid $500+ a day and 35%+ of production. That doesn’t exist anymore. Today, you can expect to make 90k to 120k if you want to live anywhere within 100 miles of a major city. And if you say that you won’t - you’re lying. This is EVERYONE. Don’t lie to yourself and say you want to live in an oilfield in North Dakota. You guys are what - 19-20 years old in the forum? Do you guys understand that at 27/28/29, when you graduate/finish your residency, you’ll be thinking of getting married. Getting settled down, having a wife and kids - and trust me, your wife won’t want to wake up and chase moose off your property.

Q. Where do you see dentistry in 10 years?

A. At the same level as pharmacists, job opportunity wise. Salaries will continue to drop, and the dentist/population ratio will skyrocket leading to declining income (Hell, my income dropped ~30k as an owner the past two years.) If there isn’t a dentist in every Walmart by then, well color me surprised (KIDDING - most will probably be in strip malls, to be honest). Loans will render most graduates unable to purchase practices because they’ll be owned by chains, and most dentists will just be employees making peanuts for their education (look at pharmacy - the other field that doesn't have mandatory residencies/where it's easy to open up a school)

Q. You mentioned your brother was an EM physician. Is how does he view things in the healthcare field right now?

A. First and foremost, I should state my brother doesn't give a f*** about dentists. As in - while Dentists (even the predents in this forum) have this insecurity complex about not being "real doctors", the number of times "dentist" crosses my brothers mind is laughably small. When was the last time you thought about an optometrist? When you needed new glasses 3 years back, otherwise you forget they exist. Thats how 90% of people view dentists

Now for the meat. My brother makes (slightly adjusted) around 320k gross income right now. His first contract out of fellowship was for around 275k. I make around 160k as an owner. 2 years back, I was at 190k, but Delta Dental decided to cut my reimbursement, and now I'm working twice as hard to woo patients to get their teeth taken care of so they don't show up in front of my brother in the ER because of an abscess. I don't give massages or have a spa at my practice, so another few points docked for me.

Physicians like to moan and groan about how the government is out to get them, their pay will be docked, etc. But the fact is - it's not going to happen - at least anytime. The AMA is extremely powerful, and there are well over 1 million physicians in the United States. Supply and Demand doesn't even play a role, because the number of residency spots is governed by government funding levels (which hasn't risen in a decade), and thanks to political gridlock, probably wont rise for the 20 years.

Dentists - all you need is a new school, and suddenly over a 10 year period, you have 1500 new dentists in one geographical area.... all trying to sell you a massage along with your prophy...

My final word to you all? Do anything else. Trust me. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Signed,

-A Current Dentist

PS. I'm posting this here because I realize many of you are too young and don't/are unable to frequent DentalTown. I'm simply keeping guys in the loop. I would have appreciated it if someone did for me back in the day when I was applying - I'm just passing it forward.

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Did anyone receive an email stating their application was complete? All I got from them was:

This is to notify you that we have received your supplemental application fee of $75. We will be in touch regarding any changes to your application status.

Thank you for your payment.

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