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What 24/7 or Night hours place is available at your school?

I love Scotch

Application/Mcat advice!!!

A 122 is like a 5 on the old MCAT, is this correct?
An equivalent to a 26 is definitely not too low, but yeah, if a 122 is a 5, then you definitely need a retake. GPA is a little lower too, would need your MCAT to be a little on the higher end rather than a little on the low end of the average for DO.

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Application/Mcat advice!!!

Lake Erie (LECOM) Discussion Thread 2015 - 2016

I am a current first year at LECOM-SH. I'm going to be busy with finals in the next few weeks and then busy again for a few weeks after Memorial Day, but I'll check in every once in a while and try to answer questions.

In the past, LECOM's secondary applications haven't required an essay.

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Foreign/International Student: Should I redo Undergrad?

Welcome. This question comes up a lot. There are many posts in the past regarding this issue and, indeed, it’s one I faced. Please do a search to find those posts.

The bottom line is that U.S. medical schools honor U.S. and Canadian undergraduate degrees. If you don’t have one of those, you have a non-standard application that is in danger of being relegated to the circular filing cabinet. In fact, most medical schools will tell you outright that they won’t review your file until it looks more ‘American’. It’s a stupid, stupid rule, but you pretty much need to do what they ask if you want to play in their sand box. Once you are in medical school, those games gets more serious.

You have two options:
1. Complete 60-90 credits of undergraduate work in the U.S. Those credits generally must contain the pre-requisite courses (6-8 credits of chemistry, organic chemistry, physics, and biology all with lab experience). Some medical schools also wants English and a few want calculus. Some medical schools want only prerequisite courses. Some want more than that (hence the 90 credits for some). You must contact the schools you are interested in and do as they ask. They have the power. Most schools will also expect you (at your own expense) to pay a professional agency to ‘translate’ your foreign undergraduate degree into a U.S. equivalent GPA. There are several agencies that provide this service if you use Google. Those evaluated grades can be entered onto the AMCAS form, but they will not be verified by AMCAS and they will not factor into the GPA calculation that medical schools use to ascertain whether you are medical school material.
2. Roll all of your foreign grades into a second, U.S. undergraduate degree as a transfer student. I know a couple of people who used this strategy (one from Australia, one from Scotland – both gained entry into U.S. allopathic (M.D.) medical programs). If you take this option, you may be able to get an undergraduate degree in 18-24 months.

A third option (the one I took, a path less trodden) was to figure out which schools will accept a foreign undergraduate degree if a U.S. graduate degree has been earned. I had 91 credits between a U.S. M.S. and Ph.D. I was ultimately only responsible for the prerequisite courses I did not take overseas (physics). Few schools will accept this option, but I am living proof that such schools exists. I also know two other people that found success with this option. Both were from England. One went to Yale Medical School and he’s now a neurosurgeon and the other went to Cornell Medical School and he’s now a dermatologist.

In the end, the MCAT is a great equalizer. If you rock the MCAT, some schools will forgive you for applying to their medical school with a foreign undergraduate degree.

Good luck!

SC

P.S. Forget about pre-medical counselors. The are totally clueless about this stuff through no fault of their own. They just don't see people like you. The honest ones will admit that. The weaker ones will pretend they know what they are doing, but they'll send you down the wrong path. When I enrolled for the physics classes I was missing, they asked me to meet with the chair of the physics department because my undergraduate transcript didn't say "math 101". I met with the physics chair. He asked what my highest degree was, then laughed loudly, apologized, and signed the form without asking any more questions. It was a huge inconvenience to drive 20 miles to enroll twice but, as I said, most people are clueless about this stuff.

P.P.S. If you don't have a green card, fix that problem first. It is the most time-consuming part. I filed for my green card a year before I took the MCAT. My green card came through seven days before my first medical school interview......two years later. Forget about scholarships. If you don't have independent wealth, there are few places that will be willing to help you. Those that might offer money, will break your knee caps with a hammer when you can't pay back the 50% interest that comes with their loan.

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5 more weeks till dec 1st

2015-16 PM&R Application Cycle

Indiana:
Indiana University- 9/23 (Wed interviews)

Louisiana:
LSU - 9/17

Massachusetts:
Harvard/Spaulding - 9/23

Michigan:
Rehab Institute of Michigan/Wayne State - 9/21

Missouri:
University of Missouri-Columbia- 9/21 (Fri interviews)

New York:
SUNY upstate- 9/23 (Mon/Fri interviews)
Albany Medical Center - 9/22
Hofstra North Shore LIJ - 9/21
Nassau University Medical Center - 9/21 (Mostly Fri)

North Carolina:
ECU/Vidant - 9/21
Carolinas - 9/18 (Mon and Fri interviews 11/16-12/18)

Ohio:
Ohio State - 9/18
Case western - 9/23 (mon and fri interviews)

Pennsylvania:
Penn State - 9/22
Temple/Moss Rehab - 9/23

Tennessee:
Vanderbilt - 9/24 (M/T, or W/Thurs)

Texas:
Baylor (Houston) - 9/22

Virginia:
UVA - 9/15 (Thurs interviews)
VCU - 9/17 (Fri interviews)

Washington:
University of Washington - 9/16 (Fri interviews)

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AOA Launches Multi-Year "DO Awareness Campaign"

I love this thread too much to stay lurking.

I'll be graduating in 2018, and IMO it is apparent that this a futile attempt by the AOA to maintain osteopathic medicine's identity, ie "treating the whole person" and "osteopathic principles" mantra in the midst of the ACGME merger.

As I've said before, the AOA is attempting to survive the merger by maintaining a "seperate, but equal" form of medical education. Most (All?) of the deans/leadership of osteopathic medical schools are AOA-trained and are members of osteopathic professional colleges.

In medical school, the only thing that distinguishes DO's from MD's is one two-hour class a week.
In practice, the two physicians are indistinguishable. Which leads to the point that if the distinguishing feature of DO schools, OMT, is not used by over 90% of DO school graduates, then why should there be a difference at all? Because the AOA is trying to keep their head above water and protect their brand. That's all we are- a brand that consistently funnels money into their system (COMLEX, osteopathic match, etc...)

Its gonna take ACGME trained DO's to propose the US Dept of Education to consolidate US undergraduate medical education under the LCME. Too bad we are too worried about our next exam/boards/clinicals to do anything about it!

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Nurse Practitioners (DNP) the new DO?

DO's became the equivalent of MD's by adopting MD training. There's no difference in training now other than DO's learn osteopathic manipulation.

The DNP education and training model is quite different. What may happen is they gain more rights and gain the right to practice independently anywhere, especially for primary care, where we have a relative shortage/distribution problem. DNP's are cheaper, handle the simple cases as well as we do, and patients generally love them (they typically get more time with their patients, and patients love people who spend time to talk and listen to them). It's a very real possibility, especially as the government tries to contain healthcare costs.

Of course, the issues is DNPs, compared to MD's, more often don't know what they don't know, so they can miss things, over-order tests, over consult, etc. But who knows, maybe they actually catch some things we miss because they can spend more time listening to the patient. I know there's a lot of research (funded by the nursing advocacy groups) that says outcomes are the same for patients with simple problems whether they see an MD/DO or a DNP, but I don't think there's any data on more complicated patients. And right now most DNPs would fail simplified USMLE exams, according to another study.

Honestly MD's are over-trained for most things we encounter--but you want someone over-trained when you're dealing with health, well-being, and well, staying alive. Kind of like how structural engineers use a large safety margin--they design a beam/truss/building to withstand the worst conditions they can imagine, and then they add in a safety multiplier. You don't just want what's cheap and efficient--you want something you know is going to last. That's why architects can't design skyscrapers, hospitals, etc., anymore without a structural engineer. However, there's no national debate over spending too much money on concrete and steel because structural engineers are over-engineering buildings...

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Nurse Practitioners (DNP) the new DO?

Where do psychiatrists do a fair amount of psychotherapy?

Nontrad journal club anyone?

Learn cool stuff, get comfortable reading unfamiliar info, get comfortable with looking at and understanding figures and charts (mcat stuff), see some applied statistics, get practice critically evaluating medical studies (i.e. did they really show that , what are the limitations, potential sources of bias, and would it apply to my patients?) other stuff as we see fit, and oh yeah, did I mention read cool and interesting stuff.

It's always more fun when you aren't being graded

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Nontrad journal club anyone?

Wvsom Vs kcu 2020

Hello all!

I have two acceptance and the decision is tearing me apart. I can't decide between Wvsom and KCUCOM. What inputs does everyone have for my decsion. Thank you.

WVSOM
+ simulation lab was awesome!
+Location was beautiful

KCU
+ reputation?
+city feel. (outside of campus area)
+ Really great study spaces.

Price is irrelevant in my decision. I kind of already ruled out CUSOM so now just pondering these two.

Thank you for all your time!

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So can we talk money?

So I've posted this before on this forum:

http://ift.tt/1GyFvNR

According to 2013 survey, 70% of Psychiatrists work <40 hours, 90% <50 hours/week. So the average salary of 217k or whatever is severely dragged down by part timers clearly.

And almost 20% earn >300k.

So by extrapolation, if you work >45 hours a week (so like 8-5, weekends off), you should be able to easily earn 300k. pretty awesome. So hourly rate then is probably along the lines of general surgery/anesthesiology/non-interventional cards (if this is in fact true).

I do scan other boards, and it looks like starting salary for cards is around 280-300k, with a ceiling of around 350-400k. But I suspect cards guy making 400k works damn hard, probably same as a psych making 400k?

http://ift.tt/1ZhKhuN

Post #162 and post #165

I'm a lowly resident, so I don't know much about this stuff, but I do glance at APA Job central emails. I remember few months ago there was a job posting in inpatient setting in Modesto CA. $360k base, with calls -> 482k. Granted I'm sure the job was 'undesirable', but I mean 450-500k to live near the Bay Area....could be worse.

So Psych isn't actually "low paying", quite the contrary based on my reading, if it is relatively comparable to the 'all mighty cardiology'.

And I'm sure cash only guys in NYC/LA easily pull in 400k? I mean I know a child psychiatrist that charges $600/hr. Obviously does not have the volume to pump that rate for 40 hour weeks, but I'm sure he does ok

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Medical school admissions questions

Hi everyone,

I've been on and off this website looking through a lot of the threads posted to find answers to my questions, but I haven't found them yet. I'm hoping someone can help me out with my questions about my candidacy for medical school and your opinion on what I should do next.

I'm a four year community college student. I've been going to school part time working to pay for school and to support my family(two parents and younger brother). I've done poorly in my academics. There's just no way around it. In my four years I've got a 0.0's in several classes, but I have retaken those classes to bring my GPA back up to a 3.3. I'm applying to a four year University this winter as a transfer student. I guess I've been reading that MD(allopathic) schools use a program that doesn't count for retakes but rather averages them? If this is the case should I wrap up my MD dreams? I have had an upward trend in my grades getting a 3.8 in the last biology and 3.8 average in the Ochem series.

I'm wondering what would you advise me to do? Continue towards completing my degrees? (B.S. in Molecular and Cellular biology and B.A. in Economics)

Would anyone advise me on if I should do a post bac after I receive my degrees or a masters program?

Another comment I wanted to make was that my C.C. has a retake policy which replaces the grade on my transcripts but shows the original grade with an R(repeat) next to it. But the University I'm applying to uses the community college policy of grade replacement so i'm wondering when my credits transfer will it only show my retaken courses on my official university transcript?

Also when filling out my application for med school will my transcripts from the University suffice (which shows my CC credits earned) or will I have to send my full CC transcripts along with my Uni transcripts?

I'm asking these questions because I am a MD hopeful and I would love to match into a radiology program which I hear is difficult for DO's. I hope someone can help me with my questions.

Thank you everyone!!

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Pursue dental school or no?

Of course you can still get into dental school; but you caught yourself early, and now you have the opportunity to raise your science GPA to a respectable level. Do not be one of those students with 100+ credits completed and at a 2 something; trust me, work hard and put your grades first.

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Pursue dental school or no?

OTA supervision by OT's

I know OTA's obviously work under the supervision of OT's... But when they say "under supervision" do they mean like the OT is leaning over their shoulder watching them ad they do everything? Or the OT just gives the interventions to be carried out and the OTA does so under the OT's license? Kind of like what a doctor does with a nurse? They evaluate come up with what needs to be done and the nurse carries it out.

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OTA supervision by OT's

Pros and Cons of staying near home vs. going OOS

Correct heading for a thank you note?

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Hello all!

I am preparing to write a thank you letter to the school I just interviewed at.

And I'm already stuck on line one.

Any ideas on what to put after Dear or To?
Such as:
Dear Admissions at University X
Or
To the Faculty at University Y

Thanks!

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Correct heading for a thank you note?

Is there really a difference between MD and DO?

God damn it, another one of these threads.

The only real differences:

1. Their pre-clinical curriculum is the same, with the exception of OMM.
2. Some DO programs may have poor clerkships/clinical rotations. This is due to how stringent COCA is vs. LCME, but I'm not an expert on this matter.
3. They take different boards (COMLEX vs. USMLE). DO students can take the USMLE to participate in the NRMP match for ACGME residencies, however.
4. There is a bias against DO students matching into ACGME residencies; for the most part, it is very very difficult for a DO grad to match into a non-AOA competitive specialty.
5. At the end of the day, you'll be a doctor whether you went to a DO school or a MD school.

Edit:
6. There is a DO and MD merger happening. Things will be different in the future. I just don't know what will happen/how different it will be.

I think that about sums it up.

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Is there really a difference between MD and DO?

Why pre-meds are unhappy

I have not yet noticed any differences between Generation Z and millenials. The people who think such differences exist are looking for them with a fine-toothed comb. To test this, just replace any text about Generation Z with the word "millenials" and the phrase is just as true, and ultimately, just as meaningless.

As for the older end of the millenial spectrum, some demographers still lump them in with the Gen-Xers, but increasingly, many marketers see them as a breed apart.

So, who are they? To answer that question, you have to take a deeper look at the world in which they are coming of age.

“When I think of millenials, technology is the first thing that comes to mind,” said Emily Citarella, a 16-year-old high school student in Atlanta. “I know people who have made their closest relationships from Tumblr, Instagram and Facebook.”
This doesn't seem out of place at all.

So far, they sound pretty much like millennials. But those who study youth trends are starting to discern big differences in how the two generations view their online personas, starting with privacy.

You don't have millenials posting this sort of thing online any more, either. It was just something people did for a short period of time before realizing it was a very bad idea.

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How should I pursue DO school?

I have a bachelors in biology with a 3.1 cumulative GPA, 2.8 science gpa, and I'm finsihing a masters thesis in biomedical engineering with a 3.455 gpa. I'll also be probably publishing about 4 papers or more with 1 being possibly 1st author depending. My question is how should I go about pursuing DO school? Should I

A) Retake undergrad classes and apply to DO schools

B) Take upper level under grad classes and apply

C) Do a post bacc program

D) Do a special masters program

E) Do another masters program

F) Apply to DO school with what I have and I should be able to get in

G) Apply to MD school with what I have and I should be able to get in

H) Take some other option I haven't stated here (please specify)

I) Go for a Phd in biomedical engineering, biomedical science, biology, and then apply to MD/DO schools.

J) Some combination of these options (please specify)

Another question I have is that I know MD schools supposedly don't look at graduate gpa, but can DO schools look at grad gpa and use that as grade forgiveness for undergrad gpa? I mean I've worked really hard in engineering and have matured greatly since undergrad so I don't really feel undergrad represents me well anymore. Please give constructive and respectful responses. Thank you kindly.

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How should I pursue DO school?

Baylor Interview 09/23/2015

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I had an amazing day at Baylor. Looking to connect with the inspiring pre-dental students that I met today.

Hope to hear from you guys,

Zeki

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Baylor Interview 09/23/2015

Does being overweight/smoking make us look bad?

Accepted yesterday...want to start STEP1 prep now. Am I nuts?

So, I just got into medical school yesterday, and I will be matriculating in 2016. Is it absolutely insane to start studying for STEP 1 now? I know it's almost 3 years from now , but I have extra time on my hands, and I would love to start cranking away at it. I just want to start making and memorizing flash cards, so by the time studying starts in earnest, I'll be way ahead of the curve. I realize that the test is likely to change at least a little bit by the time Im taking it, but I think I can still cover a lot of ground by learning fundamental, bread-and-butter topics that will never be taken away.

Thoughts? Any suggestions? Where do I start?

I should mention that I'm sort of an autodidact. For better or for worse, Ive always preferred to pass on optional lecture and simply teach myself...that's why I think this makes sense.

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Accepted yesterday...want to start STEP1 prep now. Am I nuts?

Exotoxin A

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According to FA, both Pseudomonas and Group A Strep have exotoxin A, but it seems like their mech of action is diff. Exotoxin A for Pseudomonas inactivates EF-2, whereas exotoxin A for group A strep works similar to toxic shock syndrom toxin via MHC II. Can anyone explain that if they are still talking about the same exotoxin A? Many thanks in advance.

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AOA ranking, ACGME invites

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Hello all.
I was wondering if you can tell me the last day to withdraw from AOA match.
I was also wondering how many ACGME invites predict the match success percentage-wise.

Thanks so much!

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Philadelphia COM - Philadelphia (PCOM) Discussion Thread 2015 - 2016

I was so excited about the getting the secondary, until I read the essay question.

1. 250 words is not enough
2. I do not have any good stories about influencing someone else that I can related to wanting to become a doctor
3. How the f&&& do personal characteristics demonstrate an interest in medicine?

I feel like it's going to take forever to write this essay and that even after submitting, I'm going to keep obsessing over this essay.

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Going to be a cougar in med school. Roar!

It just hit me. I'll most likely be in med school with peers ten years my junior when I finally matriculate. I might even be older than that if I don't get in the first merry-go-round.

I don't have a boyfriend, I don't have kids, and I don't foresee that changing any time soon.

I'm not the type to go to college to pursue a hubby, otherwise I'd have my MRS by now, but I can't say I've dated younger men before (and had meaningful relationships).

So, Cougartown it is, I guess, unless I go D.O. Or become that crazy single cat lady doctor.

Any other single old folks out there? I'm in my early 30s, but apparently that's geriatric in med school years, so I'm posting here.

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Cardiac surgical beta blocker

STS guidelines for CABG are that all isolated CABG patients must receive *a* beta blocker within the day prior to surgery.

Keep in mind there is no evidence to support this as a quality metric, and there is evidence that de novo beta blockade the day of noncardiac surgery is harmful.

So what do we do to get around this absurd regulatory contradiction? 1cc of esmolol. Voila! Quality!

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Cardiac surgical beta blocker

What happens when you mess up BADLY?

Applying for Anesthesiology Residency this cycle!

7 GAS matches at HMS this year. Class size total around 164, including 14 MD PHD.

HMS 2015 MATCH LIST
Anesthesiology
BWH
Columbia
MGH
Stanford
UC-Irvine
UMiami
UWashington

Dermatology
Harvard
JHU
Montefiore
NSLIJ
NYU
NYU
Stanford
UMiami
UMichigan
UMinnesota
UPMC

Emergency Medicine
BMC
BWH/MGH
BWH/MGH
JHU
LSU
Mt Sinai
Northwestern
Northwestern
NYP - Columbia/Cornell
UBC Vancouver
UChicago
UCSF
UCLA

Family Medicine
BMC
Contra Costa
Ft. Collins
UCSF

General Surgery
Army - Tacoma, WA
Columbia
MGH
Naval - SanDiego
Tufts
UColorado
UPenn
WashU

Internal Medicine
BWH
BWH
BWH
BWH
BWH
Columbia
MGH
MGH
MGH
MGH
MGH
MGH
MGH
MGH
MGH
MGH
MGH
MGH
MGH
MT Sinai
Northwestern
Stanford
Stanford
Stanford
UCSF
UCSF
UChicago
UMichigan
UWashington
Vanderbilt
Yale

OB/GYN
BWH/MGH
BWH/MGH
Northwestern
UPenn

Child Neuro
MGH
CHB
CHB

Neurology
MGH/BWH
MGH/BWH
MGH/BWH
MGH/BWH
MGH/BWH
MGH/BWH

Neurological Surgery
BWH
MGH
MGH
NYU

Ophthalmology
Bascom
Bascom
Cornell
UCLA
USC
USC
Wilmer

OMFS
MGH
MGH

Orthopedic Surgery
Allegheny General
Harvard
Harvard
Harvard
UVa
Yale

Otolaryngology
MEEI

Pathology
BIDMC
BWH
Columbia

Pediatrics
Baylor
CHB
CHB
CHB
CHB
CHB
CHB
CHoP
MGH
MGH
UCSF
UMinnesota

Plastic Surgery
JHU

Psychiatry
MGH/McLean
Northwestern
UCSF
Walter Reed

Radiology
MGH
UCSF

Radiation Oncology
Harvard
Harvard
Harvard
Harvard
Harvard
Mayo
MSKCC
Stanford
UPenn

Vascular Surgery
Stanford

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Why is repolarization delayed in class II, IV antiarrhythmics?

Does the AADSAS provide a prompt for LORs?

From AADSAS's website:

"Letters of evaluation are traditional recommendation letters written by a person qualified to recommend a person to dental school."

There is no formal prompt required by AADSAS, but they are same LOR you'd request for any other type of professional application/employment.

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Does the AADSAS provide a prompt for LORs?

"Provider"

There isn't any other profession in the world that constantly takes it without putting up a fight like us doctors do..it's just getting absurd..now it's politically incorrect to call yourself a doctor..wtf

And dont be silly, this issue isnt just limited to one EMR..the word "provider" is becoming rampant in the entire hospital culture on a national level..you will start having to introduce yourself as a provider to your patients

This would be like lawyers and paralegals jointly calling themselves legal providers..or dentist lumping themselves with dental hygienists to be called dental providers..would never happen..you think any other profession would allow that..enough is enough

Do NOT allow yourself to be called a provider..if any of your staff label you as a provider or introduce you to a patient as a provider..correct it immediately..you're a doctor not a provider..we should not be lumped together with allied health and midlevels

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"Provider"

Neuro Hospitalist

Neurohospitalist is a hot job right now. Lots of demand for these and you are correct - they can demand a very good salary.
My opinion - a good portion of the hospitalist work is neurovascular (stroke) so a year of stroke fellowship would be very useful and would also make you more competitive. If a hospital wants to maintain JCAHO comprehensive stroke certification status, they have to have a few board-certified stroke neurologists. If you are board certified in stroke AND a hospitalist, you will have many opportunities for jobs and demand higher compensation. Good luck

By the way, there are several different models for neurohospitalists. At our place, we have a hospitalist that comes to work every day monday through friday (like a 7-5pm job) and then other people cover the nights and weekends. There are other models where the hospitalists works 7 or 14 days straight (including nights and weekends) and then has 1-2 weeks essentially on vacation.

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Residencies with good outpatient training

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Hi all,

Was wondering if there are some residencies with a better outpatient focus and which institutions fall in this category.

Also, would it make a huge difference where you train vs. how you practice?

thanks

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How does TPR online prep course work?

Hey Guest! Check out the 3 MCAT Study Plan Options listed in the 'stickies' area at the top of the forums (BoomBoom, SN2ed, and MCATJelly). Let us know which you like best.

Also, we now offer a MCAT Test-Prep Exhibitions Forum where you can ask questions directly from the test-prep services.

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Jane Fitch on Independent CRNAs in VA

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Nausea and rep rate

I admit that I have heard the same anecdote and I also abide by it. Whenever I am treating the stomach (adenocarcinoma, MALT) or large portions of para-aortics (testicular seminoma) I try to reduce the MU rate to < 200 per min. With modern day approaches, include IMRT, however this is not always feasible.

To clarify, this is supposed to mitigate nausea rather than completely prevent it.

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California Doctor Convicted of Murder Charges in Overdose of Patients

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Seems like you always have to be careful around the drug seekers. Granted, based on the article it appears she has a history of questionable behavior with multiple patients. What are your prescribing habits for opioids? I never do more than 15 and usually write an odd/prime number such as 7 or 13 Anyone know people who have run into this kind of trouble with the law for a patient death linked to an ED prescription?

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An Unconventional Route through Military Medicine

It's not all that unconventional of a plan. It's colloquially referred to as "GMO and out" and it's utilized by people like you who want a short military sojourn (but not a career), those who get totally screwed in the military matching process, and those who realize early on that they despise the military and want out at the earliest opportunity. In response to your specific questions...

1. You could die in a training accident or in combat. If you have or accumulate a family before then, you could end up divorced due to the operational tempo of an operational physician. You will take a pretty significant paycut when you go back to residency (though government cheese in the form of the GI Bill may mitigate some of that). If you are extremely unlucky and cavalier as a GMO, you could feasibly make a catastrophic medical mistake that led to a bad outcome and superiors could decide to run it all the way up to a state licensing board which could impact your ability to ever get a residency (unlikely but possible).

2. You should do a transitional internship in preparation for GMO with no slack-off rotations like gas, rads, or path. Whether or not you have to repeat internship totally depends on what specialties you apply to in the future. Specialities like gas, rads, derm, etc. will almost certainly accept your internship. Primary care specialties may or may not require some remediation of internship. Surgical subs (and I include OB/GYN here) will almost certainly not accept an internship performed 3 years ago and will make you repeat.

3. Neurosurgery, Rad-Onc any of the highly competetive specialities that require a ton of research and networking as the price of admission. I'm not saying it would be impossible to match these specialties, just less likely as you won't be able to schmooze, complete audition rotations, or be an attending's research scut monkey while you're lancing pilonidal cysts and performing musculo-skeletal exams. In general though, a military hitch is a massive plus on a residency application.

4. Nothing is guaranteed. If you wash out during internship they may stash you in the medical service corps where you'll send reminders to soldiers to get their HIV test. In all likelihood, barring some type of force majeure event, you will be able to complete you plan. You can apply only for transitional internships under the guise that you haven't decided on a specialty. When you don't apply for a residency during internship the only place for you is GMO-land.

As was mentioned above, the widest variety of alpha-male operational stuff exists through the USN (operators, Marine infantry, flight, dive, etc.), though you will have to wear shirt-stays and buy white shoes.

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Texas PT School Apps 2015-2016 (PTCAS/non-PTCAS)

During the last application cycle, a member (@luxsit90) here at SDN posted a thread for the 2014-2015 cycle that really sparked the communication between all who were looking or were applying to PT school here in Texas. I found that thread during the time that I needed confidence and advice on what to do, where to apply, and how to cope with the application processes.

I applied to three Texas schools and ended up getting accepted to all of them. I give my thanks to this forum filled with the most helpful people you could meet that are not only looking to apply themselves, but also looking to help you make decisions that can really change your life.

I signed up with the mentality of not applying that cycle. Within a month of searching here, talking with other members, and looking at past experience in the countless of pages here at SDN, I made the decision to do everything needed to apply, and it ended up being the smartest decision that I made. This forum was the beginning of my application journey.

So, in that regard, my application journey is over, but yours may just be beginning. I encourage you to search the forums and browse the sticky threads if you're looking at basic advice about low GRE, GPA, or observation questions before you ask on this thread.

If all else fails and confidence as well as information is needed, then post your thoughts here. Some of us can help you, give advice, and/or give our point of view with the application process for certain schools (especially non-PTCAS schools) and our experiences with each of them.

Heck, if it just helps to just unload everything on your mind then go for it, we understand.. oh we understand.

Best,

SDN Member

These are the following accredited programs in Texas:
Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
Hardin-Simmons University (Abilene, TX)
Texas State University (San Marcos, TX)
Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center (Lubbock, TX)
Texas Woman's University (Dallas, TX)
The University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio (San Antonio, TX)
The University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston (Galveston, TX)
The University of North Texas Health Science Center at Fort Worth (Fort Worth, TX)
University of St. Augustine for Health Sciences (Austin, TX)
University of Texas El Paso (El Paso, TX)
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas (Dallas, TX)
US Army-Baylor University (Fort Sam Houston, TX)

Developing Program:
University of the Incarnate Word (San Antonio, TX)
Caroline Goulet, PT, PhD
Dean
School of Physical Therapy
4301 Broadway, CPO 412
San Antonio, TX 78209-6397
Program: 210/283-6472
Email: [email protected]
First Class Graduates: 05/2015

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Third year, thinking about quitting

I'll try to keep this a brief as possible.

TLDR: Been in school forever. Done mediocre in med school. Third year, burned out, not happy. Thinking about quitting. Have a few back up plans. Any advice appreciated.

I've been in school for 11 years. Started out pre-med, got derailed into the research world, wasn't happy with that, decided to go to med school (pre burned out). Started med school with high hopes, but these were immediately crushed when I failed anatomy. I was going to do a research track but wound up having to drop this because I remediated anatomy the summer I would have done the majority of my experiments. Also was in the midst of a divorce and to complicate things further I have bipolar disorder, so that is a permanent confounder.

Second year rolls around and at this point I'm just happy to pass everything. I did enjoy some of the clinical stuff we did but I was even more burned out by the time Step 1 happened. Didn't have enough time to study and passed with a lackluster 203. So there goes any real hope of doing more competitive specialties. Feeling pretty bitter at this point.

By the time third year started (1 week after Step 1!), I was thinking, okay, maybe this is finally my chance to shine! But as many of you probably know, third year is a total crapshoot and there is almost no correlation between effort and outcome. This frustrated me. I was considering psych and put more effort into this rotation than anything previously. Did well enough on the shelf to high pass but I worked with a miserable attending who found it physically painful to give any positive feedback. So, I'm completely jaded and cynical and sick of all the bull****.

Now I am taking this block off to do some soul searching. There has been barely anything positive about my med school experience. I hate the hours (not a morning person), I hate the lack of time to take care of oneself, I hate the culture of medicine (hierarchy, having to be PC all the time, etc). I have mixed feelings about patient care, sometimes I enjoy it, sometimes I don't. I did enjoy my neuro and ED rotations, but I don't want to go into a residency just to face the same stress and environment that I've not dealt with well in med school. I haven't performed well, I'm constantly having to adjust my psych meds and I'm 100k in debt again. And so I'm seriously thinking about exiting with the last shred of dignity I have.

I have a master's in chemistry and was doing well in a PhD program in chemistry prior to med school. I could get a job in industry, or return to finish my PhD, but I really don't know what I want out of life. I'm wondering if anyone has any advice for me, such as what kinds of things I should think about with quitting, if things are better at all in residency, if I do decide to proceed, how I should deal with my mediocre performance. Any thoughts on any of this would be appreciated.

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The Official May 22, 2015 MCAT Thread

Here are the resources I think I am going to be using in order of importance; hope it helps you all get more organized too! This is obviously in addition to the AAMC tests and SA's and whatever else they end up releasing. I think I will be using the Khan Academy videos more as a review; it doesn't seem very comprehensive as to covering everything listed on the new outline. I have bolded and underlined the materials I am considering getting but am still unsure about.

Biology:
-Content: 1) TBR Part 1 & 2, 2) TPR (old), 3) Khan Academy Vids
-Passages: 1) TBR, 2) TPRH Science Workbook, 3) AAMC Bio SA (old), 4) Khan

Biochemistry:
-Content: 1) TBR Part 2, 2) Kaplan Biochemistry, 3) Lehninger
-Passages: 1) TBR, 2) NextStep Strategy and Practice, 3) TPRH Science Workbook, 4) Khan

General Chemistry:
-Content: 1) TBR, 2) Khan Academy Vids
-Passages: 1) TBR, 2) TPRH Science Workbook, 3) AAMC GC SA (old), 4) Khan

Organic Chemistry:
-Content: 1) TBR, 2) Khan Academy Vids
-Passages: 1) TBR, 2) TPRH Science Workbook, 3) AAMC Organic SA (old), 4) Khan

Physics:
-Content: 1) TBR, 2) Khan Academy Vids
-Passages: 1) TBR, 2) TPRH Science Workbook, 3) AAMC Physics SA (old), 4) Khan

Psychology & Sociology:
-Content: 1) Kaplan Behavioral Sciences, 2) Khan Academy Vids
-Passages: ???? Not sure about this 1) NextStep Strategy and Practice, 2) Khan

CARS/Verbal:
-Passages: 1) TPRH Verbal (old), 2) EK 101, 3) NextStep CARS, 3) AAMC Verbal SA, 4) TBR Verbal??

Practice Tests:
-Old AAMC's 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11
-3 Kaplan Tests
-4 Princeton Review Tests
-NextStep if necessary? Anyone recommend these?

If anyone has ideas about what passages to do for the Psych section (feedback on NextStep strategy books?), I would appreciate it! Also, can anyone speak to how many passages are in each new EK book as well? Worth considering?

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12 AM to 6 AM Thread

On academic medicine night float for the month. My poor newly minted second year is getting creamed on her no doc admitting night and I think is a little freaked out. She is so good... But is now leaping to diagnoses rather than keeping an open mind and ordering appropriate tests to narrow the differential focus. Fortunately she is easily talked through the process.

I remember when I was a second year, nervous about admitting myself, handling all the night stuff alone as the 'senior resident'. It was a great learning experience. Now I'm the third year having the second years run their admits by me, calling with questions about floor calls, etc, and it is again good to see how much I have learned, how the thought process changes and evolves.

Tomorrow I need to do my online modules. My goal is to get them all done for the year this month so I don't have to worry about them anymore.

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Non-Traditional Path

Hi All,

Today I had an interesting idea. Does anyone here have any knowledge to share on the subject of Canadians studying medicine in either the Caribbean or Osteopathic Schools then making their way to UK to practice?

I am somewhat interested in the idea of living in England.

Is this possible? Is it harder/easier than coming back to Canada to practice from either med school circumstances?

Thanks.

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I'm a painter...showing paintings during interviews?

I'm a caribbean IMG applying for psych this year and I do oil painting in my spare time. How would you react to an applicant pulling out a colored printout of examples of paintings during an interview when discussing my hobbies? I picked tasteful paintings, mainly true to life, highly detailed still-life along with a portrait of my mom's dog. Nothing controversial, abstract or weird.

On one hand I think it could highlight some qualities of mine that could give them a fuller picture of me and on the other hand I could see how it would be a strange move or they could wonder if I'm really dedicated to medicine, etc. Not sure which way it would be perceived.

I showed the sheet at my first interview and it seemed to genuinely go over well, they liked them, the PD seemed delighted, but how would it actually translate into them considering me for a position?

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Advice for new overnight CVS pharmacist

I suggest making a list of everything you are expected to do every night. It is shockingly easy to get distracted and forget something; I keep a pocket list of what I want to get done every night and just check it off as I go. Ask your partner what he or she does if you don't know.

1. Terrible advice. I can't stress enough how bad this advice is. Except for the occasional rush the wait time really shouldn't be more than 10 minutes. Ask the overnight supervisor if you can call him/her to help with checkout if you get busy. Some can/will, others not so much.

2. I guess this is good advice, although I can't recall a time I have ever called anyone. I just page them overhead when it is ready. If they want to leave and come back I just tell them when it will be ready. The idea about enrolling everyone in texting is a good one except that there is no reason to have such a confrontational attitude about it. I also am not sure the details about how texting works overnight - does it have to be a waiter for them to get a text? Do they even get texts overnight?

3. Yeah this is how I do it.

4. What are you going to do for 1.5 hours while they wait for their flu shot? How obnoxious can you be? Either do it or don't do it (not doing it is against policy of course), but don't be a dick about it.

5. I do agree with giving the phones the lowest priority when you have people at the counter. If someone wants to know where something is, just tell them, why make them wait? Weird.

6. I never thought of that, but I do put a sign in the drive through window when I am in the break-room so they know there is no hope that I will see or help them. Most bathroom breaks are short enough that I don't see a need for any kind of sign.

7. 8. Aren't these the same things? Anyway, yes I agree with this.

9. You can have the system reboot anytime after midnight. I think the usual thing to do is have it reboot while you take your break.

10. I just do RTS based on the RTS report, but hey, whatever works for you.

11. Yup.

12. It is against policy (and ethics) to lie unless you feel your safety is in jeopardy. I just tell them professionally why I won't fill the script.

13. Hahahahahaha. Good one. Really, what do you think you are there for? Most of your time will be spent cleaning up the day shift and doing readyfill with a small amount of time for new scripts and early controls.

14. It is impossible to know if a script was picked up at another CVS. You can tell if it was filled or put on hold though.

15. I just tell people I can't fill it until the other CVS puts it back. I am surprised by how many pharmacist apparently are willing to do this.

16. I can't recall the last time I compounded something.

17. This should be on your list of things to do.

18. This depends on the store but yeah I would say to expect to put at least some truck away.

19. Yeah

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Touro Univeristy - California (TUCOM-CA) Discussion Thread 2015 - 2016

Please draft responses to the questions/prompts below, then save and upload your responses as a single document for inclusion with your supplemental application.

Responses to the following should be limited to 250 words or less:

· Within the last seven years, do you have any academic or legal records available under a different name? If yes, please provide any additional names under which your academic records may be listed.

· Are you a re-applicant who has previously interviewed? If yes, what was the result of that interview and what changes, if any, have you made which should affect a different outcome?

· What is the size of your home town or area – 2,500 to 10,000, 10,000 to 50,000, 50,000 to 100,000, 100,000 to 500,000, 500,000 to 1,000,000+), or Other (please specify)?

· Do you have any relative who is an Osteopathic Physician? Please list their name, relationship to you, COM attended, and year of graduation.

· Please list your favorite hobbies and/or non-academic pursuits.

· Within the last three years, please provide the name of previous employers, your occupation(s), and the duration(s) of your employment.

· Within the last three years, have you been engaged in any volunteer experiences? Please include the type of experience, sponsor, duration, and position.

· Within the last five years, what awards or recognitions (academic or other) have you received?

· Why have you chosen to apply to the TUC College of Osteopathic Medicine?

· Why should the Committee accept you into this year’s class?

Responses to the following should be limited to 500 words or less:

· Please describe the personal characteristics you possess and the life experiences you have had that would contribute to your success at becoming an outstanding Osteopathic Physician. Please include information that will enable the Admissions Committee to understand your unique qualities.

· Please describe your exposure to and understanding of Osteopathic Medicine. Content may include your initial introduction to the profession, its history, use in medical practice today, or any other aspects that may highlight Osteopathic Medicine’s uniqueness and synergy with your envisioned future practice of medicine.

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Obsevership Scam, help!

Hi guys, am an img and I was scheduled for 2 months of obsevership in an University hopsital at the cost of 2500$/ month. I was scheduled for the months of March and April initially and I couldn't attend in March because I did not get the visa, according to the application form rules the university said that if a person doesn't get the visa they will refund the money.( THEY CHARGED HALF OF THE TOTAL_ 2500$, WHEN THEY SENT THE ACCEPTANCE LETTER). The University asked me when I will be able to come next and they scheduled me for the months of August and September.
I came to US to give my CS in June but due to a family emergency I had to fly back home at the end of July. I explained the situation to the University, they initially agreed to postpone and when I contacted them next time, they said they are cancelling my observership and returned only 1250 $ saying that they allow to cancel and schedule only twice. The first time it was because of my Visa which was unavoidable and the second time, I had to return home.
My Uncle who lives in US asked me to make a complaint with Better Business Bureau, if I do that will the particular University do any harm to me in return?

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Official 2015-2016 ID Fellowship Application Cycle

So I'm in the process of applying for ID this cycle, coming from a 1.5/2nd tier academic program in the Midwest. I know the running gag that "if you have a pulse, then you have an ID fellowship" -- but I was hoping to get a more nuanced perspective as I am strongly looking at top tier programs across the nation.

The biggest issue I have with my application is the lack of any publications (articles or abstracts). While I do have a few things going for me (activity within high value care initiatives, interesting research projects albeit without any tangible results, chief year, etc) I just need a dose realism if I am out of my element here.

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What to watch for when doing MTM

MTM is a joke. There are companies whose sole focus is on MTM and nothing else. I work at a pharmacy on Saturdays where the owner has has started doing MTM this past year, and honestly, I don't know how he finds time to do. I am typing, filling, checking, answer phones, and solving problems, and on top of all that, I am supposed to do an MTM session? Take time to answer questions into a website, call a patient, have them come in, etc. All for what, $20-$60 if done correctly? That's why there are companies that only do MTM. It's impractical from a retail store standpoint, unless you can find a good way to do it, like APPE students. If the money is there for pharmacists, it would be worth it, but right now it seems the only people doing well on it are those who have CVS'd the idea, like Outcomes and Mirixa.

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2015-2016 Harvard Medical School Application Thread

Hey folks,
I will be matriculating here in the fall. I absolutely fell in love with HMS (especially after revisit). The facilities, opportunities, and (most importantly) the people were truly incredible. I’m extremely humbled and excited about the possibility of joining some amazing colleagues in the fall. There were some students on last year’s thread that were very helpful, and I hope I can do the same.

Stats (for 2014 entering class)-Source
-Applicants 6,614
-Admitted 231 (3.5%)
-Matriculated (includes 13 MD-PhD students) 164
-Men 84 (51%)
-Women 80 (49%)
-Underrepresented in medicine (African-American, Native American, Hispanic, Mexican-American) 31 (19%)
-Asian 56 (34%)

-Average GPA -3.8 Source
- Average MCAT
Verbal-11
Physical Science-12.41
Biological Science-12.67

(from revisit materials- for 2015 entering class)
- Applicants: 6113
- Interviewed: 813
- Total offers (as of revisit): 189
- Total URM: 41
- Total Asian: 56

Age Distribution for 2015 entering class (as of revisit)

Undergrad schools for 2015 entering class (as of revisit)

2015 Course Requirements (these are slightly different than in the past)

1. Biology-All applicants must complete a full year of biology. We will accept advanced or higher-level biology courses towards this requirement as well.
2. Chemistry-All applicants must complete a two year chemistry sequence that covers inorganic chemistry, organic chemistry, and biochemistry.
3. Physics-All applicants must complete a full year of physics.
4.Laboratory Experience
Required laboratory components of biology and chemistry are no longer defined as discretely as they were in the past. Lengthy laboratory components of the required science requirement courses are not necessarily time well and efficiently spent. Proper focus on hypothesis-driven exercises, problem solving, and hands-on demonstrations of important principles should take precedence over lengthy laboratory time commitments that steal time away from other, more productive educational opportunities. Active, sustained participation in faculty-mentored laboratory research experiences is encouraged and can be used to meet requirements for the acquisition oflaboratory skills."

5. Computational Skills/Mathematics-All applicants must complete a one-year mathematics sequence that contains calculus and statistics. Biostatistics is preferred for the statistics portion of the requirement.
6. Analytical and writing skills/ expository writing-All applicants must complete a year of coursework that features expository writing. Generally, any course in the social sciences or humanities that involves substantial essay writing will count towards this requirement.
7. Language- All applicants should be fluent in English. It does also state that “mastery of a foreign language, although not required, is valuable”
8. Additional Requirements for the HST Program
In addition to all the above requirements, the HST curriculum requires that students be comfortable with upper-level mathematics (through differential equations and linear algebra), biochemistry, and molecular biology. This is usually demonstrated through upper level course work, but other approaches may satisfy these requirements. In addition, one year of calculus-based physics in college is required.

2014-2015 Secondary Application
1. If you have already graduated, briefly (4000 characters max) summarize your activities since graduation.
2. If there is an important aspect of your personal background or identity, not addressed elsewhere in the application, that you would like to share with the Committee, we invite you to do so here. Many applicants will not need to answer this question. Examples might include significant challenges in access to education, unusual socioeconomic factors, identification with a minority culture, religion, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation or gender identity. Briefly explain how such factors have influenced your motivation for a career in medicine.(4000 character maximum)
3. Our interview season runs from midSeptember through January. Please indicate any significant (three or more weeks) restriction on your availability for interviews during this period. If none, leave blank.


*All of these prompts were optional.
2014-2015 Important Dates (Dates were obtained from last year’s SDN application thread)
- First secondary: 7/10
- First Interview Invites: Late August (I found the first reported IIs on 8/2)
- Last Interview Date: 1/29
- First acceptances: 3/3/15
- First Waitlist: 5/4 (from last year's application thread)

Financial Aid
- For 2015-2016 Entering Students (MD)
Tuition- $55,850
Budget- $ 87 k

-Harvard uses the unit loan system. The unit Loan System is calculated as follows
Standard Budget - Family Contribution= Financial Need

- For example if the budget is 85k and EFC=0 Need= 85k. Since the unit loan is capped at 33k (for our class) that means that the remainder would be covered by “HMS Scholarship”

-HMS does not offer merit scholarships (all aid is need based). HMS need based aid tends to be one of the most generous. They also have a scaled EFC formula.

-HMS doesn’t match scholarship offers from other schools

Pathways Curriculum
-The Pathways Curriculum is new for this year. The goal was to rearrange the curriculum to start clinical during the first portion of the 2nd year. I will update as I go through it, but I am actually very excited about it.

Harvard-MIT Health Sciences and Technology (HST) MD Program

Harvard/M.I.T. MD PhD Program.

More info on MD-PhD

Of Note
-70-80% of first year students live in Vanderbilt Hall. This is a dorm style setup. Vandy is a cheap alternative to the (ridiculously) expensive housing in Boston. It is also across the street from TMEC (which is where classes are)

- If you are married or not interested in living in Vandy, Harvard does offer graduate student housing. I’m currently looking for housing and will update.

-2015 Match List


I will try to update this thing throughout the cycle. Please let me know if something doesn’t make sense, or if I missed any details.
Good luck!

Citation for formatting- Thank @hellanutella for being a rockstar and starting this trend.

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2015-2016 Harvard Medical School Application Thread

NBDE Exam preparation

Not sure if I have what it takes

Hi, I'm new here. I've wanted to be a SA vet as long as I can remember. I'm in my senior year of high school right now. All of my classes except one are college classes I'm taking online through a local community college, and I have all As, with my highest grade being 99.33%. I'm taking four college classes this semester and four more in the spring. I also took two full year in-school college classes last year through a nearby university and my grades last year were all As except for two Bs in the last quarter (one in Spanish 3- which was a college class, and one in chemistry).

I've done some research and know that vet school is really, really hard to get into, so I'm trying to get a head start. I've recently contacted a vet and am going to start volunteering at her shelter, which has dogs, cats, birds, horses, pigs, goats, alpacas... all sorts of different animals. In a few months I'll start volunteering at a humane society as well.

I've filled out an application to a 4 year university for a bachelor's degree in biology with a focus on pre-vet but haven't submitted it yet. My problem is that I'm afraid that I can't handle the 8 years of school. For starters, I don't know how cells work and I hate chemistry. Granted, my chem class last year was a joke and that's why I didn't learn anything- nobody did, but that makes me worry even more because I'm going to have no prior knowledge. Anatomy/physiology is also hard to me. It's my lowest grade this semester as I currently have a 91%.

I'm also really nervous about messing up and accidentally hurting an animal or even killing it. I know that vet school is at least 5 years away, but is that really enough time to learn everything? I'm a slow learner, but once I know something, it sticks. Did anyone else have these fears when they first started? How do you overcome your fears? I do have really bad anxiety so I feel overwhelmed just thinking about all of these things.

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Not sure if I have what it takes

If you could go back, would you pursue the military scholarship?

I served for 5 years, did the 4 year HPSP payback in addition to optional "neutral year" GPR my first year in the Navy after dental school. It was good. I have zero debt. I bank everything now. It was a no brainer for me. I didn't have anyone to fund my education and I certainly wasn't going to go in hundreds of thousands dollars of debt.
Some of my friends wish they had chosen this route. It wasn't always sunshine in the military, but its a sacrifice worth taking to come out debt free.

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If you could go back, would you pursue the military scholarship?

Class of 2020 Interview Invitations

Just some general tips: Smile, remember to breathe, and be yourself. Don't wear something you're uncomfortable in (heels, skirt, suits you've outgrown, etc.), as you'll find yourself fidgeting a lot. This was discussed briefly on another thread somewhere, but ladies, wear makeup that you are comfortable in. Full face? Sure, as long as you're experienced with it. Just don't feel like you have to do it for the interview. If the interview is open file, look at your VMCAS app/supplemental just to review what you're showing the adcoms. It's perfectly acceptable to hear the question and take a few moments to compose an answer.

Also, remember that in general, an interview doesn't start/end with the scheduled time. You will be judged from the moment you step foot into the school until you leave. It is not appropriate to swear, judge other candidates, and so on (yes, some people do it). Think before you speak at all times. For one interview, someone in my tour group literally said "I love comparing myself to CC kids, I'm always so much smarter than they are." I kid you not, the tour guide sneakily glanced at his name tag and then wrote something down. Could have been a coincidence, but you get my point.

Besides all of those points, and interview day is just as much for you as it is for the school. Take the time to check out the area if you can, ask any questions you may have, and tour the school!

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Class of 2020 Interview Invitations

2015-2016 OFFICIAL REJECTION THREAD; Emergency Medicine

Added myself to the cool list for UCLA- Olive View, Cincinnati, and Northwestern.

haha, UCLA took the blunt approach: "With these restrictions, very stringent evaluation guidelines were used in reviewing each application. Your application has been reviewed and unfortunately the totality of your file did not meet our strict guidelines."

Steps for success:

1. Click on the blue "REPLY" button at the bottom right of the last post (don't copy and paste since it will not pick up the HTML code for boldface fonts).
2. Remove the bracketed things at the very beginning and very end. (QUOTE=username;numbers) and (/QUOTE) - where the parentheses are brackets
3. Type what you are adding at the top so people won't have to search the whole post to see what you added.
4. Make your additions to the body of the list. List entry format:

   State
   Program Name - Username (date of REJECTION)

DO Programs:

MD/Dual Programs:

EM/IM:
MD Programs:

Alabama
Arizona
Arkansas
California

• UCLA/Olive View - HoosierdaddyO (10/13), EMXO (10/13), runningallthetime (10/13), aguila48 (10/13)

Connecticut
Colorado
Florida
Georgia
Illinois

• Northwestern - Fox800(10/12), EXMO(10/12),jgauger(10/12), AmericaAmerica(10/12), Emb52(10/12), aguila48 (10/12)

Indiana
Louisiana
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
North Carolina
New York
Ohio

• University of Cincinnati - DO2016EM (10/13), aguila48 (10/13)

Pennsylvania

• Allegheny Health Network - DO2016EM (9/22), CavalierPB (10/1), dntke1518 (10/5)

Tennessee

• U of Tennessee Chattanooga - AmericaAmerica (9/30), DO2016EM (9/28), bigpacman101 (9/30), Mountains (9/30)

Texas
Virginia

• Virginia Tech Carilion- aguila48 (10/8), emxo (10/8), DrJanltor (10/8), Fox800 (10/8), wilg0013 (10/8), DO2016EM (10/8)

Wisconsin

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2015-2016 OFFICIAL REJECTION THREAD; Emergency Medicine

Should I go for a Post-Bacc or DO? Or just give up medical school?

UFCVM c/o 2020 Applicants

Overall GPA: 3.8
Science: 3.6ish
Last 45 hours: 3.9
GRE: honestly can't completely remember but I think quantitative 154 and verbal 156...
Vet experience: 800+ hours as a small animal vet assistant, over 1000 hours as a receptionist at VMRCVM, and ride alongs with both equine and food animal veterinarians (probably about 75 hours cumulatively)
Other animal experience/research/etc: undergrad assistant in 2 research studies, interned on Murphy Brown sow farm, kennel attendant for 2 years, decent amount of equine experience and some other small things!

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Des Moines University (DMU-COM) Discussion 2015 - 2016

The prompts:
Please describe your exposure to osteopathic medicine, including (but not limited to) experiences with physicians in primary care or rural practice within the US. How have these experiences impacted you and your pursuit of osteopathic medical education as it relates to the mission of Des Moines University? (500 word limit)

* Do you have research experience? Yes No
If yes, briefly describe the type of research experience and any measurable outcomes (presentations, publications, etc.

Please describe what you feel to be your most defining service experience (including medical or non-medical service, volunteer, military, leadership, etc.). Be sure to describe how this experience impacted you and contributed to the development of your capacity to care for others. (500 word limit)

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Opinions needed

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I work at a hospital. Would it be unprofessional or weird to ask a doctor if I could shadow them while working. I mainly pass them in elevators or at work stations. Should I just find a different way to contact them. Thanks.

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Opinions needed

California Northstate CNUCOP PHARMACY (Class of 2020)

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WELCOME! I guess this will be the tread for Cal Northstate applicants during the 2015 cycle. Got my interview for October 22! Anyone else here?

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2015-2016 Howard University Application Thread

Hey everyone, I'm also applying to Howard! I'm also a non-URM minority (if that matters??) and I've got a low GPA/decent MCAT and a whole lot of heart so I'm hoping they see that

Aside from staying in NY (it's home, and its NY lol), I would gladly relocate to DC for Howard (I've spent some time in DC and liked it).

Best of luck everyone! Can't wait till secondaries are out.

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2015-2016 Howard University Application Thread

Genetics vs Immunology?

This is a pretty simple yes or no question: I was wondering which class in your opinion had more interesting and easier concepts: Immunology or Genetics and what you liked about your choice?

I need one more elective for graduation and both classes seem interesting to me. I would like to take it easy for my final semester

There are some other classes that I can think of: Intro to Drug Delivery, Cellular Physiology, and Intro to Pharmacology,

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2015-2016 Johns Hopkins University Application Thread

Incoming MS1 here, so I can't speak on very much aside from my interview and second look experiences – which were awesome. I'm sure the MS2+s will be much better sources. Just want to say that I am pumped to matriculate here and cannot wait to meet (and possibly host!) some of you guys for interviews!

Stats [source]
~6,500 applicants
~4,500 secondaries completed (though no screen)
~600 interviewed (MD) + ~60 interviewed (MSTP)
As per interview day, about 200 are accepted, 200 waitlisted, and 200 rejected.
~250 total acceptances
118 matriculated (10-12 MSTP students)

As per interview day, there is no in-state bias.

2014-2015 Secondary Application (there is no screen)

1. If you have already received your bachelor's degree, please describe what you have been doing since graduation, and your plans for the upcoming year. (700 characters)
2. If you interrupted your college education for a semester or longer, please describe what you did during that time. (700 characters)
3. List any academic honors or awards you have received since entering college: (600 characters)
4. Briefly describe your single, most rewarding experience. Feel free to refer to an experience previously described in your AMCAS application. (900 characters)
5. Are there any areas of medicine that are of particular interest to you? If so, please comment. (1100 characters)
6. Briefly describe a situation where you had to overcome adversity; include lessons learned and how you think it will affect your career as a future physician. (900 characters)
7. Briefly describe a situation where you were not in the majority. What did you learn from this experience? (1100 characters)
8. If applying to the dual MD/MBA program, please describe your reasons for wishing to obtain this degree. (1100 characters)

*Note: in the 2014-15 application cycle it often took over a month for a submitted secondary to be marked as complete.
*Note: you can discuss experiences already selected as "most meaningful" or discuss entirely different ones; applicants from either approach received interviews and acceptances so do not fret. Yes, the secondary questions are somewhat redundant, but trust me... JHU is worth it.

2014-2015 Important Dates
First secondary: July 2nd, 2014
First interview: August 13th, 2014
First acceptance: December 12th, 2014 via portal update (with email alert)
First waitlist: December 12th, 2014 via portal update (with email alert)
First pre-interview rejection: December 16th, 2014
First acceptance off waitlist: April 19th, 2015

JHU is semi-rolling, so post-interview decisions were relayed solely on Dec 16th, Jan 30th, and March 30th. As per JHU’s Facebook page, waitlist movement should occur by mid-May.

Update Letter Policy
Updates are not accepted pre-interview. Post-interview updates may be sent to Ms. Valerie Mazza at: vmazz[email protected]

Curriculum
Genes to Society 1.5 year condensed preclinical. Preclinical has been P/F since 2009.

• Pass is set to 70%
• Clinicals are graded honours/high pass/pass/fail
• Lectures are non-mandatory and recorded; labs and small group activities have 80% required attendance

Interview
One faculty interview, one student interview. Faculty interview is open-file.

Of Note

• As of 2014-2015, JHU offers a $20,500 unit loan and need based aid only. As per interview day, the average graduate debt for the class of 2013 was $108,000 (not including undergrad debt).
• Johns Hopkins Admissions has an informative and frequently-updated Facebook page. Check it out.
• There does not appear to be an internal ranking in the preclinical years. According to this evaluation of MSPEs, the Johns Hopkins’s Dean’s Letter provides: “Incomplete data. The summary paragraph sometimes concludes with a Most Confident and Enthusiastic recommendation, or with a Confident and Enthusiastic recommendation. But there are no appendices that define a student's performance relative to his or her peers.”

Oh, and we have a cool dome.

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2015-2016 Johns Hopkins University Application Thread

Has anyone wore adult diapers while taking the mcat?

All these replies made me imagine myself wearing adult diapers during the practice tests and eventually becoming one with the diaper to the point where I can focus despite the smell and feces touching my butt, while at the real test, the other premeds are incredibly distracted by the pungent odor and due to time constraints, the other pre med kids report the smell during their break, in which the test stops or the dense smell coming from me gives me away.

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Has anyone wore adult diapers while taking the mcat?

Alabama College of Osteopathic Medicine (ACOM) Discussion Thread 2015 - 2016

I was an applicant for the 2013-2014 cycle and although I did not attend this school, out of all the schools I interviewed at, this one was my favorite (it was also my very first interview, I was one of the first groups). The dean, faculty, campus, and even community were extremely welcoming. From the moment you walk into the school, you feel how they dedicated and driven everyone is. I ended up choosing another DO school that is close to home but wanted to share this with you guys. Be yourselves in all your interviews, it will take you far and don't get addicted to SDN!!

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2015-2016 California Northstate University College of Medicine

Physician starting salaries for each specialty...

Just want to put out there that trev came at me a week or 2 after I had posted about men not at always being better negotiators. I didn't like his tone so I thought I would try and get a rise out of him and argue with him for arguments sake, and guess what he flew off the handle and made a fool of himself.

Are men generally better negotiators then women maybe, there is research for both sides of the statement and one could argue either way. I think it has more to do with circumstances and personality traits rather than gender but that's just me. Trev is apparently and expert in gender negotiation skills so there's really no point to further this debate.

Hey trev, the accusations you made about "my generation are just plain stupid" we are definitely not all like that. There's going to be good ones and bad ones in every generation. I suggest you change your general view of "my generation" or it's going to be a long miserable road for you because we are not going anywhere anytime soon.

I also agree with serenade in that women's lower salaries are a factor of multiple things (taking more time off then men, gender bias, sex discrimination).

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2015-2016 University of Chicago (Pritzker) Application Thread

Why I choose Chicago

So I have decided to write up a synopsis on why I choose the University of Chicago Pritzker School of Medicine. I remember a year ago being clueless about what I wanted in a medical school and appreciating any insight I could get on the schools I was applying to. Being ignorant at this stage is not necessarily a negative though. As a result of my ignorance I applied all over the place. This was a blessing in disguise because some of my favorite schools post-interview were at the bottom of my list pre-interview. My first choice school pre-season(someplace I honestly thought I would attend if I was accepted no matter what) became one of my last choices post-interview. I came very close to not applying to Pritzker. It's crazy out there and there are so many awesome schools but I hope you can find a school that excites you as much as the University of Chicago excites me.

Disclaimer: I am a bright-eyed incoming student. I may be completely wrong about some things I elaborate on below but I welcome any dissenting options and/or additional information. Obviously I am biased.

Financial Aid

It is well known around these parts that UChicago has a decent amount of merit money floating around. Medical school is ridiculously expensive and even at my state school I was looking at 250k debt. As a recent college grad I had a difficult time grasping the magnitude of the debt I was considering incurring. UChicago was my cheapest option and it came to down to money equaling flexibility. I don't know what my future career is going to look like, but I wanted as much future flexibility as possible. Especially since most of my interests don't pay particularly well(public health, academics, pediatrics, etc). You will need to decide how important debt is for you and your future. As cheesy as it sounds, I think some of best advice I was given was: "Money comes and goes, but you will only be in medical school, and be this young, once"(<---my grandfather is apparently no stranger to YOLO).

You probably knew all that. A little more relevant to UChicago is what I think all that merit aid says about the school. I listened to my fair share of financial aid presentations on the interview trail and almost every school mentioned how they were concerned with student debt and rising tuition costs. After seeing many facts and figures I was blown away with how little tuition generally mattered to schools(one school told us 2% of their budget came from tuition), and yet even an extra 5k a year could make a huge difference to an individual student. What I took away was that if student debt was truly a priority every school could do more to address the issue. I think the reality is that most schools have other priorities for their money that they deem more important. UChicago being one of a handful of exceptions. From what I have heard, they allocate an impressive amount of discretionary money to aid and even decreased their class from 100-->88 a few years ago with one of the reasons being so they could provide adequate aid to everyone(there may be more to this story than I know, this is what I was told).

Pritzker's aid policies made me feel like Pritzker values it's students greatly. I like being valued, what about you?

The People

I had great experiences with all the faculty, staff, and students I met during interviews and second look. There is obviously some luck involved in this fact but it mattered anyway. Something like 60 out of the 88 first years were involved in second look and every student I met seemed genuinely happy to be at Pritzker. It is hard to describe but I felt comfortable at Chicago; I felt like it was a place where I "fit." Also where else do you have social rounds where faculty serve you beer?

Earlier in the season I thought it was odd that I was interviewed by not only a faculty member and a student but also an admissions staff member. It turned out that this was a genius move by the admission staff. The staff member who interviewed me literally became my connection to the school. A job he was well suited for since he both read my application and interviewed me. He sent me personalized emails making sure I had the information I needed to make my decision and when I showed up at second look he made sure I was aware of particular activities and information he thought I would be interested in based off my application/interview. Some schools I felt like nothing more than a cog in a large admissions machine but at Chicago I felt like a person and that felt good.

Surrounding University

Being on a university campus was a huge plus to me and the opportunity to take an elective or two outside of the school of medicine seemed awesome. I previously did research at the intersection of social science and medicine and with UChicago I couldn't really go wrong in this area.

Location

I wanted to leave California(apparently this makes me odd) so I knew it was going to be cold pretty much anywhere I went. Since I spent my life in suburbia I was looking forward to getting closer to a city and Hyde Park seemed like a happy medium. Definitely urban environment but not exactly downtown. I am living in Hyde Park the first year with the plan to move to the south loop eventually. The south side of Chicago also seemed like a great place to learn medicine since I am very much interested in underserved medicine.

Not going to lie, I also bought lollapalooza tickets way before I knew I was going to Chicago. If I decided to go elsewhere I would of had to sell them or something...and then how would I see alt j, phoenix, vampire weekend and the cure all in one day? Let's be real.

New hospital

A cruise ship has landed in Chicago and the university turned it into a hospital(google "center for care and discovery" if you are confused). It's huge, it's new, it's pretty(on the inside at least). This is probably not a great reason to choose a school but I like pretty things.

Traditional curriculum

The curriculum at Pritzker made me cringe a bit. I was a very big fan of the 1/1.5 yr curriculums I saw at other institutions. Comparatively Pritzker seems to have more classroom time and less PBL(might not be a negative for you). Luckily there are plenty of redeeming factors: lecture attendance not required, getting anatomy out of the way early, time to take electives outside the school of medicine, and a lot more health disparities and social medicine stuff incorporated into the curriculum than I could find anywhere else.

Small clinical enterprise

This is probably the biggest weakness I could identify. I honestly don't know if it is truly a weakness since I got a lot of different opinions from a lot of different people. Compared to other places I was considering, Uchicago's hospitals are small. They don't have a VA. You do get Northshore hospital though. All the fourth years I met during second look seemed very happy with their clinical experience though and had only good things to say(this was not the same everywhere, I definitely got some scary responses from 4th years, could totally be biased by who I talked to though).

Good luck, I hope to see some of you around Chicago interviewing this upcoming year!

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2015-2016 University of Chicago (Pritzker) Application Thread